HirstWhoScoredIt Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 13 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: I'm with @McRightSide on this one. He's actually been one of our best 'box' finishers for a long while. Expected Goals to Actual Goals This link shows the attack breakdowns for each team. For each team, it shows the players that have had most shots during the season and then compares their actual goals scored compared to the expected goals. Basically, if you are in the shaded area your finishing has been as expected. Below it, your finishing has been poor. Above it and you have finished well. Fletcher is well above it, Nuhiu is struggling to hold onto the shaded area (albeit prior to Saturday). Looking at other teams, you can see why WBA are doing so well. You can also see why Leeds are not blwoing the rest of the division away despite their dominant displays. Although Bamford's finishing probably hasn't been quite as bad as Leeds' fans think. However, unlike most teams that are doing well, they have nobody that is finishing well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 It’s a bit weird when I hear other fans describing him as a pub league player He’s actually technically better than any of our other strikers, bar probably Forestieri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, gurujuan said: It’s a bit weird when I hear other fans describing him as a pub league player He’s actually technically better than any of our other strikers, bar probably Forestieri No he’s not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr Farrell said: He's actually a better finisher on the floor than he is with his head in my view. by a mile .some stats on here show how poor he is with his head ,fletcher who is half a foot smaller wins nearly twice as much in the air as nuhiu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, handworth52 said: by a mile .some stats on here show how poor he is with his head ,fletcher who is half a foot smaller wins nearly twice as much in the air as nuhiu. Weirdly though he is very good at defensive headers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarwolf Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I'd agree with others and say he is much better with his feet than his head despite his size, but then again Tudgay can't have been 5"10 and I don't think I ever saw him lose a header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, hugeowl said: Weirdly though he is very good at defensive headers yer agree with that ,he is far more useful later in a game as a sub than he is starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 15 hours ago, McRightSide said: Remember how much of a donkey he was infront of goal the first couple of seasons? He used to miss so many chances... Now he is actually pretty clinical. He actually doesn’t get too many chances a game as he’s often doing grunt work elsewhere on the pitch - but when he does, he converts quite regularly. Whoever has been helping him develop that part of his game has done a great job. hi Atdhe...what’s for tea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Weirdly though he is very good at defensive headers He's usually not got two wrestling him to the floor when the balls coming into our box though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 30 minutes ago, gurujuan said: It’s a bit weird when I hear other fans describing him as a pub league player He’s actually technically better than any of our other strikers, bar probably Forestieri 30 minutes ago, hugeowl said: No he’s not Meant to say, in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, Wednesday_Jack said: hi Atdhe...what’s for tea? I would say Liam Cooper but I had him on toast the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 14 hours ago, toppOwl said: Sounds like a bit of a wind up post this but what I will say is that Nuihu is a total enigma, at once absolutely dire then laying on an assist as good as the one for Murphy yesterday or scoring a goal like the one v Norwich, a bizarre player. OUR bizarre player! The so called Wednesday fans who do not appreciate Nuhiu should at least get off his back shouldn't they? If they do not understand what he brings to the team, (much like Adam Reach and Morgan Fox), they would appear much smarter by just keeping their mouths shut. Those who cannot remember the first of his goals and assists for us should check out heck out some of the videos of him on youtube. There are plenty of goal compilations showing, amongst others his goal at Man City and goals against many of the top clubs in the league. There are several showing just his nifty footwork in quite a few games, although there are plenty more to show, one just shows his goal from nowhere when we were playing for time at the corner flag, or the true hat trick, finished off in style at the Kop end. Any Owls fans who doubt the big man ought to have a little chat with fans from around the country with l**ds and Middlesborough fans high in the list of fans, who think he is unstoppable. Occasionally he has a bad game, big deal, he is human like the rest of us. He more than makes up for it and gets used as a sub more often than not, because he is a lot more dependable, especially when you need something extra, than many of our so called star players. He has also scored 8 more goals for us than Forestieri, has for us overall and 6 goals more than Fessi over the last 3 seasons and too many of us have raved about Fessi over the years, who has shown far less commitment to the team than Atdhe and has far fewer teammates that regard him as a friend (according to Bannan)! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Weirdly though he is very good at defensive headers Couple of reasons for that. Defensive headers are much easier than attacking headers. Generally getting anything on it is pretty much a success - trying to craft an opening or beat a professional goalkeeper is much more difficult. Secondly, we allow him (and Fletcher) to be the free man and just attack the ball. No klingons nor marking responsibility helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted January 13, 2020 Author Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ante's Bubbly said: OUR bizarre player! The so called Wednesday fans who do not appreciate Nuhiu should at least get off his back shouldn't they? If they do not understand what he brings to the team, (much like Adam Reach and Morgan Fox), they would appear much smarter by just keeping their mouths shut. Those who cannot remember the first of his goals and assists for us should check out heck out some of the videos of him on youtube. There are plenty of goal compilations showing, amongst others his goal at Man City and goals against many of the top clubs in the league. There are several showing just his nifty footwork in quite a few games, although there are plenty more to show, one just shows his goal from nowhere when we were playing for time at the corner flag, or the true hat trick, finished off in style at the Kop end. Any Owls fans who doubt the big man ought to have a little chat with fans from around the country with l**ds and Middlesborough fans high in the list of fans, who think he is unstoppable. Occasionally he has a bad game, big deal, he is human like the rest of us. He more than makes up for it and gets used as a sub more often than not, because he is a lot more dependable, especially when you need something extra, than many of our so called star players. He has also scored 8 more goals for us than Forestieri, has for us overall and 6 goals more than Fessi over the last 3 seasons and too many of us have raved about Fessi over the years, who has shown far less commitment to the team than Atdhe and has far fewer teammates that regard him as a friend (according to Bannan)! He used to miss loads of chances to get those goals too. Now he doesn't. Clinical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ante's Bubbly said: OUR bizarre player! The so called Wednesday fans who do not appreciate Nuhiu should at least get off his back shouldn't they? If they do not understand what he brings to the team, (much like Adam Reach and Morgan Fox), they would appear much smarter by just keeping their mouths shut. Those who cannot remember the first of his goals and assists for us should check out heck out some of the videos of him on youtube. There are plenty of goal compilations showing, amongst others his goal at Man City and goals against many of the top clubs in the league. There are several showing just his nifty footwork in quite a few games, although there are plenty more to show, one just shows his goal from nowhere when we were playing for time at the corner flag, or the true hat trick, finished off in style at the Kop end. Any Owls fans who doubt the big man ought to have a little chat with fans from around the country with l**ds and Middlesborough fans high in the list of fans, who think he is unstoppable. Occasionally he has a bad game, big deal, he is human like the rest of us. He more than makes up for it and gets used as a sub more often than not, because he is a lot more dependable, especially when you need something extra, than many of our so called star players. He has also scored 8 more goals for us than Forestieri, has for us overall and 6 goals more than Fessi over the last 3 seasons and too many of us have raved about Fessi over the years, who has shown far less commitment to the team than Atdhe and has far fewer teammates that regard him as a friend (according to Bannan)! A glowing tribute but unfortunately it glosses over the fact that he can be absolutely awful in too many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, McRightSide said: He used to miss loads of chances to get those goals too. Now he doesn't. Clinical Yes his goal scoring ratio has definitely improved, but I reckon it would be better still if he had a steady run in the team. The other thing with Nuhiu though is his awareness of where other people are and his ability to get the ball to them when moving into dangerous areas. He provides nearly as many assists, as he does goals, not to mention his link up play that often leads to goals or goal scoring opportunities. If Monk can carry on his improvement in front of goal, as he has with the strikers he has improved at other clubs, then we could have another very effective option upfront in Nuhiu if loan players do not come through, the way we expect them to. Quite frankly, I would rather Monk work his magic on one of our players than a player that will just go back to their club at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 7 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said: He's deceptive He's slower than he looks Such a simple little line but so funny. Nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ante's Bubbly Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, toppOwl said: A glowing tribute but unfortunately it glosses over the fact that he can be absolutely awful in too many games. A dreary put down, but it masks over the fact that he has out performed a player who many have hailed as some sort of magical talisman, while outperforming him even when he has had a bad day. Aren't you sick of the number times that people tell us Nuhiu has had a bad game, when he has just come on for the last ten minutes in games, where we have been dire throughout and he has at least managed to have a couple of efforts on goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 He's brilliant. Someone said it before, how can you defend against some one who doesn't know himself what hes gonna do next?! Joao was exact same in that regard, just faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 6 hours ago, toppOwl said: Yes he did spring to mind but I remember him more as at first looking like a useless lump then growing into the game and improving, then being the star player in an admittedly poor side. They could both be world beaters for 10 minutes - a season. That’s perhaps a bit unfair but you’ve my drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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