Essix Blue Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Which seems totally at odds with your tacit support of the EFLs stance & moving the goal posts after the event by you saying quote:- "we can't have it both ways". If we have done wrong we deserve to be punished. IMO of course. I don’t think the rules are fair nor fit for purpose but they are rules and we should abide by them. If DC pulls a rabbit out of the hat I’ll be chuffed to bits. Is that ok? Or are you gonna continue this line of attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Yeah, Villa are in the poo by all accounts. Not quite sure how they've managed to get themselves into such a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Sounds like they will yes but what punishment is unknown as its never been done in the Premier league before but I would guess at a fine and embargo. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7807011/Aston-Villa-threat-FFP-rules-Dean-Smith-possibly-forced-fire-sale.html Reading that, it seems they’re in breach of Prem rules for spending, not EFL. I guess the punishments are similar tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bigthinrob said: Are you actually a Wednesday supporter because it seems to me, proving your argument right is more important to you than the well being of the club. Essix has been around a very very very long time fella. No need for getting personal. He is offering his opinion and debating the subject. Edited December 28, 2019 by Maddogbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Villa would get 120m for Grealish, Myngs and McGinn in todays market. They needed to raise cash quick they would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: Essix has been around a very very very long time fella. No need for getting personal. He is offering his opinion and debating the subject. Thanks. It’s the reason why I don’t post in here much now, gets far too personal when someone disagrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: Thanks. It’s the reason why I don’t post in here much now, gets far too personal when someone disagrees No it doesn't, ya great chuff! Edited December 28, 2019 by areNOTwhatTHEYseem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Essix Blue said: Thanks. It’s the reason why I don’t post in here much now, gets far too personal when someone disagrees Noted and always trying to keep on top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 hours ago, kobayashi said: Not if the collateral for a loan was the shares of the company that owns rather than the land itself. The reality is that nobody has a clue how the companies that now own SWFC and Hillsborough are being financed so for anyone to claim that there is no concern or risk is wrong. And that was the case as soon as Manderic acquired the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, pazowl55 said: Villa would get 120m for Grealish, Myngs and McGinn in todays market. They needed to raise cash quick they would be fine. Not for mcginn, he is super injured atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Essix Blue Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: No it doesn't, ya great chuff! REPORTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, hugeowl said: And that was the case as soon as Manderic acquired the club Correct...it was a concern then and as the sums of money become ever greater and the schemes (whether legitimate or not) ever more opaque then those concerns also grow ever greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, kobayashi said: Correct...it was a concern then and as the sums of money become ever greater and the schemes (whether legitimate or not) ever more opaque then those concerns also grow ever greater. Cannot remember much in terms of objections or concerns at the time or even up to the announcement of the “soft embargo “ strange that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 10 hours ago, 2roland2 said: Morning, going off trends so far, no I don’t think he’s learned, we have t improved commercially and are still not attempting to bring in key sponsors or if so very badly and I honestly think of it wasn’t for ffp we would be massively gambling one last time. I had high hopes he had learned when he got bruce but honestly I do t think he’s learned and I don’t think he has any intention of learning. Just my view obv but time will tell You've totally slated the club then expect "key sponsors" to pump money in - total nonsense, where were these sponsors under previous regimes. You've been banging this drum for months, it doesn't stack up, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Cannot remember much in terms of objections or concerns at the time or even up to the announcement of the “soft embargo “ strange that TBF there were some murmurings from certain fans about what DC was doing and how he was going about it. Vast majority didn’t care though, just jumped aboard for the ride ( can’t fault em in a way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Cannot remember much in terms of objections or concerns at the time or even up to the announcement of the “soft embargo “ strange that Chansiri assured us FFP wasn’t a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 minute ago, rickygoo said: Chansiri assured us FFP wasn’t a problem. And the fact he had to assure us means there were people concerned about it before we were penalised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sonny said: And the fact he had to assure us means there were people concerned about it before we were penalised. Let’s be honest, it didn’t take an accountant to work out we might be getting ourselves into the EFLs bad books back then. Throwing money about like confetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: TBF there were some murmurings from certain fans about what DC was doing and how he was going about it. Vast majority didn’t care though, just jumped aboard for the ride ( can’t fault em in a way) Cannot remember anything for the first two seasons of Chansiris reign though Why would there be ? He was taking us to the promised land right ? Only objections I remember is ticket prices people only started questioning when the on the field performances faultered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, hugeowl said: Cannot remember anything for the first two seasons of Chansiris reign though Why would there be ? He was taking us to the promised land right ? Only objections I remember is ticket prices people only started questioning when the on the field performances faultered The first mutterings were about behind the scenes. Staff leaving, DC being quite an authoritarian. Of course it’s his club he can run it how he wants - well, no a certain degree anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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