i used to be sc_owl Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: The biggest cluster f##ck is commenting like that. Do you think the club is in a better position now than it was under MM? I’m talking in a general sense; financially, strength of squad, reputation and standing within football and so on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hack-Abusi said: This for me Some abject pathetic offerings. Even the likes of Bannan. Completely invisible I don’t get the love in with Bannan. He’s not that good. Made to look good by some of the other turdballers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Sunday’s day off should be cancelled and the team should be forced to watch the video and explain why they played so deep, why they stood 10 yards off their players allowing them to play at will in our half, why we couldn’t string 2 passes together and why the forwards were left isolated and totally outnumbered. And then I’d show the video again another couple of times. If we had to watch this then so can they. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 32 minutes ago, Womble Owl said: Totally agree. I said before the game, if we win give Bullen the job, if we lose get someone in. How can you make such an important decision on one game ? The writing has been on the wall for the last few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Frazzlebeak said: I don’t get the love in with Bannan. He’s not that good. Made to look good by some of the other turdballers. He often plays so deep he might as well be sitting in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack-Abusi Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Frazzlebeak said: I don’t get the love in with Bannan. He’s not that good. Made to look good by some of the other turdballers. Fair point. The love in is unreal. Against poor teams he comes good but when hes up against it he hides and complete bottle job. And yet no manager has played him in a front 3 or behind strikers. Garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: Bad result, bad performance, bad referee and generally a bad game for all our players. Lees injury, 2 first half bookings not deserved. Qpr Centre half should have been sent off or at least booked for the Fletcher elbow. Qpr had ref in their pockets. Got to feel bad for LB. Today was the last thing he needed to happen. I think he had a plan b but plan c d and e we just don't have enough options for today's situation. Some fans now in meltdown. All with the same comments that LB is to blame or DC. Not a popular opinion but they are the last people to blame. Every single player today bar kw played badly. and the officials were even worse. Qpr are a good side and took advantage of the refereeing better than we did. Pep gaurdiola would not have got us a win today with those circumstances. Some days its just not going to happen. Sorry but not sorry but blaming everyone but the players (who had zero run of the green and not for lack of trying ). Our players marginally performed better than the officials. Frustrated - yes. The easy target is LB. Hopefully thats our bad one out of the way for the season. We still unlucky not to get a point out of such a poor performance against a decent team. Problem is they’ve all been bad. Including the ones we won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womble Owl Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ray Von shabba said: How can you make such an important decision on one game ? The writing has been on the wall for the last few games. I've been on the fence since Millwall, I feel after the Rotherham performance and today, lack of cohesion and ideas in both, nows the time for change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Von shabba Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, kingsidney said: Problem is they’ve all been bad. Including the ones we won. Not actually true. The performance against Barnsley was good. We were out of the blocks from the whistle and contested everything and unlucky not to have won by more. BUT that's where it ends and I then agree with your statement. That performance and result gave us a false view of what was to come and I don't like what I see. So time for a change asap before irreparable damage is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, Womble Owl said: I've been on the fence since Millwall, I feel after the Rotherham performance and today, lack of cohesion and ideas in both, nows the time for change Your patience is admirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ray Von shabba said: Not actually true. The performance against Barnsley was good. We were out of the blocks from the whistle and contested everything and unlucky not to have won by more. BUT that's where it ends and I then agree with your statement. That performance and result gave us a false view of what was to come and I don't like what I see. So time for a change asap before irreparable damage is done. Bring jos back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Womble Owl said: I said before the game, if we win give Bullen the job, if we lose get someone in. A decision of that magnitude and you're going to reduce it to the outcome of a single football match? Do you have any conception how major a part chance and capriciousness play in every game, no matter who you are, how much planning is done, or what the occasion? Breathtaking idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I can safely say that with Lees playing today we would have drawn at least. Without him our defence was a completely new unit. With no time to prepare for Lees omission. Bullen already few options became even less. Qpr will beat teams that played better than we have today. Can anyone honestly say we have a group of in form players that are being told to play wrong tactics. No We have a squad with talent that is not settled or comfortable with the position of themselves and others around them. Football fans are not patient people. We have waited a long time for a squad as good and deep as ours is now. We have to give the players with lb in charge more time. Particularly in a teams transition player and management learn more from defeat than victory. They will have learnt a lot about themselves and team mates today. How they all react to the defeat in the future is much more important in assessing lb and the teams ability to be a success. With so many players playing poorly and the poor officialdom and the result being a 1 2 loss against a decent team. The meltdown is definitely as premature as i would be with blond 21 year old 5 foot 8 tall 32 26 34 identical twin of my missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: A decision of that magnitude and you're going to reduce it to the outcome of a single football match? Do you have any conception how major a part chance and capriciousness play in every game, no matter who you are, how much planning is done, or what the occasion? Breathtaking idiocy. Totally agree mate. Unfortunately others have also voiced similar comments after today. We will learn much more from the players and managers reaction to the performance today than the 90 mins that lb is being judged on earlier. Some of the comments are absolute joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Livid today. Unfortunately Bullen has to take the blame. We have learned that shoehorning players into a team doesn’t work in the past (Bannan, Forestieri). When I saw the line-up I was concerned. This team started the season with great confidence and an identity. 4-3-3. What we saw today was abject and Bullen showed vast inexperience in not reacting soon enough. All confidence gone has now gone. When they went 3-5-2 I was absolutely astounded. What was going through Bullen’s head? 23,000 people knew that that was a ridiculous idea. Today was Bullen’s big test and he couldn’t have failed it more. Gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 54 minutes ago, Frazzlebeak said: I don’t get the love in with Bannan. He’s not that good. Made to look good by some of the other turdballers. When bannan plays well Wednesday play well. You may have highlighted a important issue. We do rely on a player who influence perhaps does not match his ability. The opposition has an easy option of who to stiffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstys_achilles Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, sammo said: Livid today. Unfortunately Bullen has to take the blame. We have learned that shoehorning players into a team doesn’t work in the past (Bannan, Forestieri). When I saw the line-up I was concerned. This team started the season with great confidence and an identity. 4-3-3. What we saw today was abject and Bullen showed vast inexperience in not reacting soon enough. All confidence gone has now gone. When they went 3-5-2 I was absolutely astounded. What was going through Bullen’s head? 23,000 people knew that that was a ridiculous idea. Today was Bullen’s big test and he couldn’t have failed it more. Gutted. Is bullen also to blame for every player having a total stinker. Surely if the players had played well the tactics would have looked much more attractive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, hirstys_achilles said: Totally agree mate. Unfortunately others have also voiced similar comments after today. We will learn much more from the players and managers reaction to the performance today than the 90 mins that lb is being judged on earlier. Some of the comments are absolute joke I’ve seen enough to know it’s only going to be more of the same if we stick with the status quo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Westwood 6 Palmer 4 he’s an awful right back. Miles better on the left Iorfa 4 wow never been a cb Borner 5 better than Hector my arse Fox 5 Hutch 5 chasing shadows Bannan 4 should have been sent off Harris 4 been worked out Reach 5 overrated FF 5 how I wish we could have the Nando from 2 years ago back Fletcher 6 Murphy 4 he’s crap Luongo 4 thought he was still playing for them Nuhiu 4 no impact Bullen is totally out of his depth as the last two performances have shown. I’m fuming. The one team I want to really beat this year is QPR as I have a right arrogant poopydoo of a mate who is already giving it large! The reason hutch is chasing shadows is becouse bannan and reach would struggle against a ladies under 16's team both physically and defencivly. Reach will never make a cm becouse he just can't handle the physical or mental battle in no man's land of cm. Bannan just doesn't have the strength or stature. Exactly the same as with joey last season. Kante would have been chasing shadows too outnumbered in the middle like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleowl Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, hirstys_achilles said: Is bullen also to blame for every player having a total stinker. Surely if the players had played well the tactics would have looked much more attractive Yes and what tactics are we talking about because i did'nt see any today did you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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