DeeJayOne Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Choice quote from DC in his interview with Dom Howson: “Two months ago, the fans and media were saying Jos was very good. Now we have gone down in the table, the fans are saying Jos is very bad and are asking why we haven’t changed [manager]." Is this quote correct? To my mind, I can't remember anyone ever saying Jos was "good" - fans or media. Mostly I recall the opposite. I do recall people saying to give him a chance though, so maybe that is being conflated? Has his chance since expired? SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe Hesley OWL Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Two months is a long time in football, especially when its 1 win in 10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland nilson Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, DeeJayOne said: Choice quote from DC in his interview with Dom Howson: “Two months ago, the fans and media were saying Jos was very good. Now we have gone down in the table, the fans are saying Jos is very bad and are asking why we haven’t changed [manager]." Is this quote correct? To my mind, I can't remember anyone ever saying Jos was "good" - fans or media. Mostly I recall the opposite. I do recall people saying to give him a chance though, so maybe that is being conflated? Has his chance since expired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 need one of these https://www.theworks.co.uk/p/novelty-gifts/flashing-bullsh-t-button/5037241265559?CAWELAID=720011340002667309&catargetid=720011340002181618&cadevice=c&gclid=CjwKCAiA9efgBRAYEiwAUT-jtJZRQ0gM22pLT9O7bdxW978QRLufIbVb-yE655ihDQBeYJ-lrefm6hoC7XgQAvD_BwE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roland nilson Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Its DCs denial process of believing himself, Jos and his advisors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 He was worth £20 before one win in ten. He's still worth £20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Fixture list and a couple of dodgy opponents got us to 6th place with a mid table side. He was seen to be doing an OK job by some in difficult circumstances. The problem is that he hasn't the league experience or temperament to deal with the current circumstances, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meadows Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Heard him referred to by a few things... "very good" definitely not one of em 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 This is the trouble with an owner that doesn’t understand football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, Peacenocchio said: Fixture list and a couple of dodgy opponents got us to 6th place with a mid table side. He was seen to be doing an OK job by some in difficult circumstances. The problem is that he hasn't the league experience or temperament to deal with the current circumstances, There was definitely that short good run of results - but I never heard anyone attribute it to Jos or say he was "good". Even during that time fans were criticising a lot of the selections and style of play from what I recall. SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilnhurstowl Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Think this will be the same process for tonight I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Performance wise I think anyone could see we were in a false position. We have had about two or three decent performances this season. Not sure I heard anyone waxing lyrical about Jos though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EcclesallOwl Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) It's completely false He's just taking advantage of the fact we were 6th at one point this season (which means next to nothing) and assuming no one will question him when saying that supporters were praising Jos because of it Basically saying "Well no one was complaining when we were good, everyone loved Jos. Now we're bad everyone's changed their minds" Edited December 19, 2018 by EcclesallOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, DeeJayOne said: Choice quote from DC in his interview with Dom Howson: “Two months ago, the fans and media were saying Jos was very good. Now we have gone down in the table, the fans are saying Jos is very bad and are asking why we haven’t changed [manager]." Is this quote correct? To my mind, I can't remember anyone ever saying Jos was "good" - fans or media. Mostly I recall the opposite. I do recall people saying to give him a chance though, so maybe that is being conflated? Has his chance since expired? We were, when we got into the play off spots two international breaks ago the whole of owlstalk thought he was a genius. He'd brought kids through, stopped playing the deadwood and got us so great results without spending a penny. We'd recently got Hector in and he was looking like the missing piece of the defence we'd been looking for for over a decade. Then we got 1 win and 7 defeats in 10 and now he looks terrible, he's even stopped picking the kids for the bench It's all about wins. If we win some games people will start to give him some slack, lose more games and he'll be hated. Football fans are bipolar so it's very exaggerated but it's a results business in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Just now, DeeJayOne said: There was definitely that short good run of results - but I never heard anyone attribute it to Jos or say he was "good". Even during that time fans were criticising a lot of the selections and style of play from what I recall. I can only say that the pre game pub conversations and talk in the ground I heard were generally hes not doing bad. At that time. What was happening on here I dont really know, there are lots of agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeJayOne Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Sultan_Pepper said: We were, when we got into the play off spots two international breaks ago the whole of owlstalk thought he was a genius. He'd brought kids through, stopped playing the deadwood and got us so great results without spending a penny. We'd recently got Hector in and he was looking like the missing piece of the defence we'd been looking for for over a decade. Then we got 1 win and 7 defeats in 10 and now he looks terrible, he's even stopped picking the kids for the bench It's all about wins. If we win some games people will start to give him some slack, lose more games and he'll be hated. Football fans are bipolar so it's very exaggerated but it's a results business in the end Interesting. Definitely agree with the "Football fans are very binary and it is very exaggerated" (changed from bipolar so as not to insult/offend). SHEFFIELD SHOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, EcclesallOwl said: It's completely false He's just taking advantage of the fact we were 6th at one point this season (which means next to nothing) and assuming no one will question him when saying that supporters were praising Jos because of it Basically saying "Well no one was complaining when we were good, everyone loved Jos. Now we're bad everyone's changed their minds" Exactly and the killer point is we didn’t play well to get to 6th. A lot of the table was separated by about 2 points at that time. So if we get relegated, will Chansiri say “well you lot weren’t complaining in early September..” no Chansiri, we weren’t Edited December 19, 2018 by Owls-Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I said Jos was out of his depth from day one; the Millwall away game then confirmed it for me. Not everyone thought he was great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Dont recall anyone saying Jos was very good and if they did they were very mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 For me the league position and 1 win in 10 are irrelevant for me. The football on the pitch is awful. We were lead to believe he was a manager that is supposed to be a defensive organiser but we are all over the place defensively and that with playing some of the most negative football I have ever seen. People wouldn't be calling for his head if we played some decent attacking football, got battered some weeks and battered teams other weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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