Mystic Neg Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I don't think this is anywhere near as bad as last season, at least 5 of those haven't come back from being injured last season so we can't use them in a new crock list. The only new injuries on that list are FF, Van Aken, Matias, Fox and Baker. I'd say 3 of those aren't 1st choice anyway so really, this season we have crucial injuries to 2 players that have featured or are likely to feature in team that has got to 6th in the table. We've got much more depth in our squad as well now so can't help feel we are looking for things to panic about. Most other clubs will have picked up a few injuries this season, as have we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Mystic Neg said: I don't think this is anywhere near as bad as last season, at least 5 of those haven't come back from being injured last season so we can't use them in a new crock list. The only new injuries on that list are FF, Van Aken, Matias, Fox and Baker. I'd say 3 of those aren't 1st choice anyway so really, this season we have crucial injuries to 2 players that have featured or are likely to feature in team that has got to 6th in the table. We've got much more depth in our squad as well now so can't help feel we are looking for things to panic about. Most other clubs will have picked up a few injuries this season, as have we. Add to those 5 Fletcher, Joao and Palmer who have been out for more than 2 weeks this season and it's a pretty big list when we are only in October! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just goes to show, it wasn’t right to blame Carlos for last season’s injuries, anymore than it is right to blame Jos now Injuries happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldtimer Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Dutch McLovin said: Are they all just crocks or is something a miss ?? Training ground ? Physios something cant be quite right can it ? Ps Is Hooper actually done I haven't heard a update One of our previous managers -- cant remember which -- questioned the quality of the middlewood training ground pitches, and suggested it could be the cause of our recent injury problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, sw1867 said: Baker got a slight ankle knock playing for Wales U21’s but nothing serious. He didn’t play in the second game for as more of a precaution. Incidently, Baker played in midfield and played very well. Seems to be his regular position with them now. Like an inverse Liam Palmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, gurujuan said: Just goes to show, it wasn’t right to blame Carlos for last season’s injuries, anymore than it is right to blame Jos now Injuries happen Trouble is, when a man inherits injured players that may or may not been have mistreated either way, they still don't get a clean slate with all player injuries reset at point of appointment. Having a fitter squad, less prone to injury will take more than 10 months to generate. A sign telling me that Jos is looking at this is that generally our players look much sharper and fitter, those that are playing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 What was Fletcher’s injury at Bristol and is he mended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Main difference is the players aren't as injured as they was under carlos. We are just now more careful with them than before. I for one am happier with that. Much better to lose them now for 2 games than for 15 game's 2 months down the line, a la under the fitness guru Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 hours ago, royalowlisback said: Van Aken - massive whack on ankle no ones fault K Lee - screwed by CC Matias - seems to be injury prone. FF - not sure but may also be prone Winnall - not back yet - injured by derby, eased back slowly so as not to cripple him again. Abdi - ? ha-ha - not injured Hooper - crippled by CC and still recovering. Fox - fit yet? - played for kids so yes Hutch - fit yet/ever? - played for kids so nearly. Baker - not heard that one Have I missed anyone?- add them to the players apparently not considered for selection KW, Boyd, Jones - I make that 13 1st team players unavailable for 1 reason or another. What a joke we are in this position again. Imagine if we weren't such a basket case of a club - how good we could actually be, and how well is JL doing considering? JL is managing the lads so as to not cripple them like under the previous regime. We have same amount of injured players as other clubs do. It's just other clubs play them and then they break down within weeks. Doesn't help though that majority of our players get injured very easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: JL is managing the lads so as to not cripple them like under the previous regime. We have same amount of injured players as other clubs do. It's just other clubs play them and then they break down within weeks. Doesn't help though that majority of our players get injured very easily. I praised JL's management - but there is still something very wrong with our playing squad. Whether we rest them, play them - whatever, they just keep breaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, FreshOwl said: Van Aken was in the training pics this week all in all it hasn’t really improved since the Carlos days, so less emphasis on questioning the managers (Carlos and JL) and more on the fact we signed absolute crocks Lee and Hooper are 100% CC’s fault, his insistence on them playing when they weren’t fit has cost them dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Wim Jonk, Phil Scott, and Andy Hinchliffe are due to return next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 24 minutes ago, Stoop said: Lee and Hooper are 100% CC’s fault, his insistence on them playing when they weren’t fit has cost them dear Any substance to this or was it a throwaway comment by a player in a pre match conference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, FreshOwl said: Any substance to this or was it a throwaway comment by a player in a pre match conference? To be fair several players have intimated this in various newspaper interviews. Then again you can't believe all (anything) you read in newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Hookowl said: To be fair several players have intimated this in various newspaper interviews. Then again you can't believe all (anything) you read in newspapers. And owlstalk took it as gospel, so in actual fact there’s little evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, FreshOwl said: And owlstalk took it as gospel, so in actual fact there’s little evidence You don't need evidence to post things on owlstalk, just a vivid imagination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 All I can say is, it's a good job we've just had a two-week international break given the injury situation. Losing FF a big blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfsmith Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I'm not suggesting everyone reads this study from cover to cover but a quick peek shows just how professional many clubs are in monitoring injuries over time. It shows how much time and effort is put into study injuries, their rates of occurrence, injury causes and player availability both for training and for competitive matches.One small bit of information which is pertinent here (Section 6 for those interested) is that the average percentage player availability for competitive matches at each club was just under 90% over a 9 month period. Sheffield Wednesday's player availability over the past two years with or without Carlos has been nowhere near that! Here's the link - https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/uefaorg/Medical/02/28/70/88/2287088_DOWNLOAD.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 footballers are just fairys a little strain in the leg and they have 2 weeks off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lomas613 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Hang about majority of that list are still injured from last season ??!! So can’t really count them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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