Sonny Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ibbo48 said: Yeah but they definitely care about their country even if they don’t about football. Are you telling me that there aren’t people in this country that don’t find the idea of patriotism repugnant ? Oh and whilst you’re taking the pee out of 1966 remember we didn’t need to have 16 pints and be coked off our heads to enjoy the game in those days No, I’m not telling you that (otherwise that’s what I would have said). Basically I’m saying that the only one talking about patriotism being repugnant during this world seems to be you and that you’re massively exaggerating both how much other countries care and how amazing the celebrations were in 1966. I’m sure we could at least muster a parade this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ibbo48 said: Yeah but they definitely care about their country even if they don’t about football. Are you telling me that there aren’t people in this country that don’t find the idea of patriotism repugnant ? Oh and whilst you’re taking the pee out of 1966 remember we didn’t need to have 16 pints and be coked off our heads to enjoy the game in those days Also, nice to know how you get your kicks on match day but I enjoy it fine without the coke and 26 pints cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Everything was great but now it’s rubbish and better in other countries... remind me again who’s being unpatriotic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Yeah that’s me done I think 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sonny said: Everything was great but now it’s rubbish and better in other countries... remind me again who’s being unpatriotic? Some Momentum style thinking here. How to twist a post and turn it on it’s head. Well done. Incidentally you need to find something better to do. Multiple consecutive posts reflect badly on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, Ibbo48 said: Some Momentum style thinking here. How to twist a post and turn it on it’s head. Well done. Incidentally you need to find something better to do. Multiple consecutive posts reflect badly on you You carry on hating on the country, I’ll enjoy the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I thought you’d done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DobbinTheDonkey Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I watch England qualifiers but not that bothered about the friendlies. I put them on but it's more of a background thing. As for the World Cup, and Euro's for that matter, I watch as many matches as I can. I am a fan of football. I don't understand people who don't watch the PL because of SKY and all the money involved but then that is their choice. As for England I wasn't expecting much and have been pleasantly surprised. It appears we have a system and pick players to fit that system. Instead of the whole routine of picking a system and then trying to shoehorn the supposed best player in to that system whether it suits them or not. Are there bandwagon jumpers? Of course but it's nice. It's a bit like Xmas when, for a small amount of time, most people are nice to each other and get along. Will we win it? Doubt it but as long as we are still in the tournament and just like I do at the start of every season before kick off in our first match I will sit/stand there thinking. This is our year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 7 hours ago, sharrowowl said: It doesn't help having a national anthem which is basically Idol worship of the queen rather than any affectionate hymn to the English nation. Right there before kick off you've alienated anyone who doesn't worship the queen and/or god. Nothing wrong with being proud of where you've come from but i suppose decades of hooliganism overseas has tainted the willingness of many to get the cross of St George out. Hopefully that's behind us now though and we can build a new sense of nationality not based on imperialism and any warped sense of superiority. Making Jerusalem the national anthem would be a good start. The Queen is awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finney on the Wing Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, DobbinTheDonkey said: I watch England qualifiers but not that bothered about the friendlies. I put them on but it's more of a background thing. As for the World Cup, and Euro's for that matter, I watch as many matches as I can. I am a fan of football. I don't understand people who don't watch the PL because of SKY and all the money involved but then that is their choice. As for England I wasn't expecting much and have been pleasantly surprised. It appears we have a system and pick players to fit that system. Instead of the whole routine of picking a system and then trying to shoehorn the supposed best player in to that system whether it suits them or not. Are there bandwagon jumpers? Of course but it's nice. It's a bit like Xmas when, for a small amount of time, most people are nice to each other and get along. Will we win it? Doubt it but as long as we are still in the tournament and just like I do at the start of every season before kick off in our first match I will sit/stand there thinking. This is our year Virtually the way I feel Dobbin, apart from I don't watch the PL stuff because one, I've not got Sky and two, I just can't be bothered to watch it anyway. It's good to see an England squad and manager that seem to be all pulling together, working for each other, and the nation is slowly coming round to this. Whatever happens on Saturday, they've exceeded my expectations and will hopefully improve with time. This World Cup tournament has been the best for ages. WAEAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, LiamAP22D said: The Queen is awesome. Tell that to Lady Di 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: I think the people who constantly slagged their national team and said wouldn't watch them etc deserve a bit of stick. Yup, wierdos people who do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Watson said: Tell that to Lady Di She's still alive, was just a big conspiracy theory, she works in Amazon In Rossington with Lord Lucan and Elvis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, steveger said: She's still alive, was just a big conspiracy theory, she works in Amazon In Rossington with Lord Lucan and Elvis I used to knock about with her when we were kids. Good days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reallondonowl Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I was going to question the thread title from the OP by asking why he used the word "now", as we've always been MASSIVE England fans but seeing the rant about patriotism................errrrrmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinOwlMan Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Lee A said: So if Lucas João played for Portugal against England, you'd have wanted Portugal to win? Each to their own, but that is proper mental. If I see Lucas has to beat a Chelsea defender to get a strike on goal against an Everton keeper I can’t bring myself to wish for anything but a goal. I am club before country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 BBC was sickly this morning. People are going way over the top with street parties etc. Yes if we win the semi, now it seems all a bit too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinOwlMan Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Gildowl said: Does he really? And there's me thinking that the Sweden/Switzerland match was one of the worst matches I had seen in the tournament and that should England safely negotiate the tinderbox scenario of the snidey Colombia match they would have a fantastic chance to reach the semis, before losing in the semis. And I pointed out that Sweden’s finishing was wonderful... but only for comedy value. My point is, though, that not only the English are confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woozie Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) It was a historic night, people are within their right to celebrate. I genuinely fear for the country if we ever do win another world cup though. Edited July 4, 2018 by Woozie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Finally a national side devoid of ego, players coasting on "name", managers coasting on "name", WAG parades, poo keepers, and flipping nonsense usually associated with the national team. Youth, fresh thinking, fresh approach. Long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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