gavlad Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I was told at an u23s game b4 Clare made his 1st team debut that he wasn't signing a contract along with another player for the u23s, so I don't think it matters what we offer him he'll be on his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, steelowl said: can't stand the weasel agent input but whilst these potential departures are seen as some sort of disloyalty and treason it's their job so most young lads whatever their job when offered double triple wages will follow the cash Absolutely they will follow the money even if it takes them ultimately into non league football, short term thinking get the cash while you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhopping Owl Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Another maddening situation. On one hand I’m sure we’re all extremely sick of being held to ransom by youngsters whose appearances you can count on one hand. That being said, it makes you wonder what on Earth the improvements in our youth structure were for if we’re just going to let all our brightest prospects leave at the end of their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xxxxxxxxcxcc Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said: Another maddening situation. On one hand I’m sure we’re all extremely sick of being held to ransom by youngsters whose appearances you can count on one hand. That being said, it makes you wonder what on Earth the improvements in our youth structure were for if we’re just going to let all our brightest prospects leave at the end of their contracts. We've got some arguably even more talented even younger players coming through. Perhaps the answer is to secure them to longer contracts on reasonable money at an earlier stage before heads get turned by a modicum of attention. It's difficult though. At we haven't opened the floodgates for all the other youngsters to make demands that the club can't afford to meet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 hours ago, gavlad said: I was told at an u23s game b4 Clare made his 1st team debut that he wasn't signing a contract along with another player for the u23s, so I don't think it matters what we offer him he'll be on his way I remember this was reported here around that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 What's wrong with his ankle anyway? Sprain? Broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 On 4/14/2018 at 07:52, Socialist_Owl said: This. Borderline offensive he thinks he deserves a move out. Clare is being badly advised. I don't understand where he thinks he has any leverage here. Oh well. Not concerned in the least. Door, arse. Is he another one Doyen have got their claws into ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Is he another one Doyen have got their claws into ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Is he another one Doyen have got their claws into ? Don't know. But he's a Hackney lad. Might just fancy being nearer home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: What's wrong with his ankle anyway? Sprain? Broken? Infected butterfly tattoo !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 It's crazy to let the likes of Hirst and Clare leave, regardless of how good people think they are. Why sign older players on big wages and let younger ones escape? I don't get why we went for the higher academy category band if that's what we are going to do. The risks are far less giving potential a chance than the alternative. Fletcher or Hirst Abdi or Clare There are arguments to suggest that Hirst and Clare will have done just as much in the time that Fletcher and Abdi have been here and on a percentage of their wage. We also have the added bonus of rather than spending millions we are potentially making money as they are saleable assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, MuddyFunkster said: It's crazy to let the likes of Hirst and Clare leave, regardless of how good people think they are. How are we letting them go if they refuse to sign a new deal and want to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, SiJ said: How are we letting them go if they refuse to sign a new deal and want to leave? Think we let it go on too long personally. Other suitors have now come sniffing. Carlos should have been giving Hirst game time last season when he was on the bench. It could all be different now if he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: How are we letting them go if they refuse to sign a new deal and want to leave? It's an emotional fans reaction. It's forgivable...but you wouldn't want the owner thinking that way...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I would bet a considerable amount he signs. I think he could be immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MuddyFunkster said: Think we let it go on too long personally. Other suitors have now come sniffing. Carlos should have been giving Hirst game time last season when he was on the bench. It could all be different now if he did. Why should he have been given Hirst game time? What has Hirst done to see him picked above Hooper, Nando, Fletcher and so on. Absolutely nothing. Edited April 15, 2018 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, MuddyFunkster said: Think we let it go on too long personally. Other suitors have now come sniffing. Carlos should have been giving Hirst game time last season when he was on the bench. It could all be different now if he did. That was never going to happen mate..s*it or bust with Carlos.... understandable but long term club interests were never on his radar imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: That was never going to happen mate..s*it or bust with Carlos.... understandable but long term club interests were never on his radar imo. Exactly. Carlos's remit was to get us promoted. Very few managers nowadays are going to chuck the kids in when their job is on the line. Some fans live in cloud cuckoo land. Edited April 15, 2018 by SiJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, SiJ said: Exactly. Carlos's remit was to get us promoted. Very few managers nowadays are going to chuck the kids in when their job is on the line. Some fans live in cloud cuckoo land. Maybe...where Wednesday are concerned it's so hard to be dispassionate tho... I do understand why people lose reason at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Owl Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The game needs to move to a situation where the pay is performance related. There should be a basic level of weekly pay that is guaranteed and everything else should depend on appearances and results. That way whatever the age of the player they get paid what they are worth to the club as a whole. Sadly in today's game it's never going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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