steelcityowlsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: Considering van Aken cost about half of what Roberts cost Brum, I think we know why we went for one rather than the other... Thought we paid 3 million for Van Aken to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 So where has this Roberts rumour come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, steelcityowlsfan said: Thought we paid 3 million for Van Aken to be honest. Reported at the time to be 3€ million, which equates to about £2.5 million (give or take). That fee also includes a promotion clause, so some of that value will only be paid after we get promotion to the Prem... which might be a while. My point being, it's nowhere near £4m, which is more than we paid for van Aken and Pelupessy combined... which sort of indicates how much we had to spend last season and perhaps explains why Roberts wasn't someone we could realistically bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: Reported at the time to be 3€ million, which equates to about £2.5 million (give or take). That fee also includes a promotion clause, so some of that value will only be paid after we get promotion to the Prem... which might be a while. My point being, it's nowhere near £4m, which is more than we paid for van Aken and Pelupessy combined... which sort of indicates how much we had to spend last season and perhaps explains why Roberts wasn't someone we could realistically bring in. And before that there was the 6 million that got turned down by Cardiff for Morrison. I bet he's glad he didn't join looking how things turned out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Of course it’s more important, now we’re playing with a back three, that you have at least one left footed centre back, and one right They will often be dragged into the full back positions, and need to be comfortable playing there Watching them last season, Lees and Venancio seemed happier on the right of the three, even when Venancio was playing in the centre Van Aken is very left footed, though I didn’t see enough of him to know how comfortable he was when dragged out wide He sure can pick a long pass though, something that will be really useful if we can add a bit more pace to our attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Better off with Alf Roberts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 On 18/06/2018 at 18:40, DELUDED OWL said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/24/qpr-ordered-pay-world-record-40million-ffp-fine-losing-three/ Thanks! Sure I remember the initial fine was £11m as it coincided with the sell-on fee they got for Sterling to Man City. Article below in 2015 says £8m. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/aug/18/qpr-fine-financial-fair-play-8m Whatever the fine turns out to be - assuming it's not quashed on appeal - it will be a fraction of Premier League money, so still doesn't seem like a deterrent. Can't believe it's dragged on for 3 years mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 On stoppers, Boro bidding for Bristol's Flint, yet another kid we rejected. Exactly what we need now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 2 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Think Van Aken is a better player in a Jos team then a Carlos one. he can pick a pass as well as, say, Maguire did the other night. But defensively he's looked all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, fred mciver said: On stoppers, Boro bidding for Bristol's Flint, yet another kid we rejected. Exactly what we need now. When did we reject Flint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, fred mciver said: On stoppers, Boro bidding for Bristol's Flint, yet another kid we rejected. Exactly what we need now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Now being confirmed that West Ham have signed Fabianski for a fee of around £7m For me, this sets the benchmark when it comes to estimating Keiren Westwood's worth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Ethel The Tree said: Now being confirmed that West Ham have signed Fabianski for a fee of around £7m For me, this sets the benchmark when it comes to estimating Keiren Westwood's worth Not really as Fabianski has been playing PL football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, fred mciver said: On stoppers, Boro bidding for Bristol's Flint, yet another kid we rejected. Exactly what we need now. If you try, really, really hard I'm sure you could find a spurious link between swfc and the flood of the 1860's !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ethel The Tree said: Now being confirmed that West Ham have signed Fabianski for a fee of around £7m For me, this sets the benchmark when it comes to estimating Keiren Westwood's worth Why is that the benchmark? Fabianski is a regular at international and Prem level. KW isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ethel The Tree said: Now being confirmed that West Ham have signed Fabianski for a fee of around £7m For me, this sets the benchmark when it comes to estimating Keiren Westwood's worth Fabianski has played about 180 games in the premiership compared to Westwood’s 19. We wouldn’t get anything remotely close to £7m for Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Would be nice if we had a couple of new signings sorted for when pre-season training starts. Get everyone firing from day 1 rather than people coming in with late and taking weeks to get up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sonny said: Fabianski has played about 180 games in the premiership compared to Westwood’s 19. We wouldn’t get anything remotely close to £7m for Westwood. Amongst other things, I'm going off age and length of contract remaining Westwood (apparently) could have left us to join a PL club but chose to sign a new deal instead Also, he might well have earned more full international caps under a different manager KW also has more senior league apps under his belt Besides all that, it's all about opinions in't it? The 'benchmark' being a 33yr old keeper, 1st choice at his club and regularly selected at international level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Just now, Ethel The Tree said: Amongst other things, I'm going off age and length of contract remaining Westwood (apparently) could have left us to join a PL club but chose to sign a new deal instead Also, he might well have earned more full international caps under a different manager KW also has more senior league apps under his belt Besides all that, it's all about opinions in't it? The 'benchmark' being a 33yr old keeper, 1st choice at his club and regularly selected at international level Of course it’s about opinions - I’m allowed one too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 £7m is still a hefty price... Sellers market again. Hard to believe we'd be looking for much less than £2m if we're interested in potentially selling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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