Bluesteel Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 By keeping our prized assets and not falling foul of FFP, DC will have certainly done his bit financially. But it doesn’t seem possible to then go and spend again when the margins are tight, unless we sell big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 If our intention is to challenge for a top 6 spot this season the team imo really does need a few new additions. We have a good team but a little extra quality is still needed especially when we pick up injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, room0035 said: If we are playing 4-2-3-1 we need a right back and left back If we play a 3-5-2 we need a right winger and a left winger. Which ever formation we play we need either a right back or a right winger. Remember Jos played with what he had available last season, as no loans or transfers came in to help with our situation other than Pelupessy. He has a summer to reshape the squad only a few out of contract have left and hunt, no incoming that we know of we could have a few on trial, which will find out if there are any when we see a team sheet for the first friendly. I know moneys tight but there just doesn't seem to be any urgency to get the squad set for the new season and the longer it takes to bring players in the more likely they won't be match fit to start the season. Let hope for some positive news from the club this week. Cant really comment of the lad Tilt, I've never even heard of him before. As far as formation for us though under Jos, be it necessity unless we can get some decent wheeling & dealing done, I think we'll be keeping the 5-2-1-2 formation. It's perfect to allow Nando a free role behind both strikers which we'll probably start with joao & Nuhiu unless fletch & hooper manage to prove full fitness before the season starts. It also means if we're going in having to pick a couple of the youngsters at the back there's more cover in case of the odd mistake.... Its been working for England anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Biggs on the ball as usual Agree. Great that people can make a living stating the obvious. Should consider a career as a house wife. Edited July 9, 2018 by airborne_rat_of_s6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: By keeping our prized assets and not falling foul of FFP, DC will have certainly done his bit financially. But it doesn’t seem possible to then go and spend again when the margins are tight, unless we sell big. It’s what he promised to do, in return for us putting up with high ticket prices To be honest, it’s the least he can do after the Rhodes fiasco We presumably have the Hunt fee, plus the freed up wages of Venancio, Wallace, Loovens, and Hunt himself That should enable us to bring in 4 or 5 loan deals, then that’s job done Edited July 9, 2018 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, striker said: It's a strange window, everyone seems to want players out in order to get players in. Have the feeling that for those with money to spend, this league is there for the taking as they have the pick of players available early doors, the rest will be picking up leftovers once they have shifted on players to fund recruitment. Poor recruitment when the boot was on the other foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Junk Smuggler said: Poor recruitment when the boot was on the other foot. Its our poor recruitment over the past two years that has left us in this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Once Rhodes has gone I’d imagine there may be some movement, hopefully even 1 or 2 shrewd deals already lined up , still expect it to be loan market business only though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Once Rhodes has gone I’d imagine there may be some movement, hopefully even 1 or 2 shrewd deals already lined up , still expect it to be loan market business only though Yes I'm sure jos said he would be shopping in the premiership loan market and it could be late deals back end of the transfer window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Would hope the Jack Hunt money would have been made available to improve the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Adam Reachs left peg said: Ha, depends on outgoings but with only hunt gone we are struggling We’ve also lost Wallace, Loovens and Venancio from the pay roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: It’s what he promised to do, in return for us putting up with high ticket prices To be honest, it’s the least he can do after the Rhodes fiasco We presumably have the Hunt fee, plus the freed up wages of Venancio, Wallace, Loovens, and Hunt himself That should enable us to bring in 4 or 5 loan deals, then that’s job done The least he can do? After shelling out 8m quid of his own money (what a a fiasco for us) something we’ve never been able to do, on what was deemed by many (I know, not you) as one of the best scorers at this level in recent years in order to try and get us to the premier league? Again something we haven’t been remotely close to doing since the last two years. We made a loss of 20m last season with a reserved summer. Something like just under 10 the season before. I don’t see why so many people think that because we have shifted a few we can now bring more in and be ok? How is that gap being bridged? Those who have gone out will have brought us toward where we need to be, but we not only need to reach that point but we also need to create further room to bring others in. If we were able to do that based on DCs investment plus ticket cash alone then I’m sure we’d be in the market for players now but we clearly aren’t. One things for sure is that if we didn’t have DC plus the high prices we would be worried about a hell of a lot more than FFP Edited July 9, 2018 by Bluesteel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, bladeshater said: Yes I'm sure jos said he would be shopping in the premiership loan market and it could be late deals back end of the transfer window Correct he did. Plus the loan window is open till the end of August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzieowl Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, gurujuan said: We’ve also lost Wallace, Loovens and Venancio from the pay roll plus Kean, Hirst and possibly Clare. 1.6m for Hunt and surely 25/30k a week plus saving for them lot. Just Fox, Jones, Matias (maybe), Rhodes and poss Winnall to go. saving another 100k a week wages. probably wont miss any of them either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernOwl Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: It’s what he promised to do, in return for us putting up with high ticket prices To be honest, it’s the least he can do after the Rhodes fiasco We presumably have the Hunt fee, plus the freed up wages of Venancio, Wallace, Loovens, and Hunt himself That should enable us to bring in 4 or 5 loan deals, then that’s job done Except we lost 20 million last year which we can't afford to do this time around. So not all of those savings can be reinvested. In fact probably none of them can which is why we are waiting to get Rhodes off the books before we sign anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 As a rough estimate, I think we will need to cut costs by 50% or raise money by player sales. That’s if we lost 20m last year, just under 10 before that and we can lose 39m. Adding loans or whatever for every outgoing wouldn’t work, unless they were so heavily subsidised they are practically free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: As a rough estimate, I think we will need to cut costs by 50% or raise money by player sales. That’s if we lost 20m last year, just under 10 before that and we can lose 39m. Adding loans or whatever for every outgoing wouldn’t work, unless they were so heavily subsidised they are practically free. Wasn't that the club losses though. Not the losses in regards to FFP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Could you get around ffp by paying say wages in a one off payment AFTER next summers cutoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 We're gonna be fine. Koumas, Lombardo, and Kit Symons are all limbering up for us. I'm told there's strong resolve to get the deals done this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, wilyfox said: We're gonna be fine. Koumas, Lombardo, and Kit Symons are all limbering up for us. I'm told there's strong resolve to get the deals done this time. Could have all played in that behind closed doors friendly. No one knows what went on do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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