Guest RocketOwl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 There will still be many on here finding excuses in two seasons time when he is still performing at the level we have witnessed. Confidence isnt going to make him faster, stronger and more competent at linking play effectively. His one on one miss is extremely worrying. I've watched the clip numoerous time now. What's clear to me and worrying is his lack of movement to get into that chance. Watch it. Joao gives Rhodes no choice but to go for the ball - it's a fantastic ball by Joao. It's fantastic because Rhodes doesn't make the run. Fernando orHooper would already be on the half turn making it easier to compose for a finish. It's all too rushed as Rhodes is to slow seeing the opportunity - which is supposed to be his main strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 7 hours ago, thewookieisdown said: The really crazy thing is that when our strikers miss chances they get slated by a vocal minority. They have games where they don't have chances and they don't get criticised. It is completely daft. How did the brisket work out? FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Lichfield alien said: Has JR offered more than sinton and Jeffers so far?? No...so you don't need to answer that one No, that is not what your post inferred. If you talk about wasting money and return on investment, at the time Sinton was signed I think the fee was 2.7 million which would put it among the top fees paid in Europe at that time. His wages would be comparable to some leading international footballers. The return over the years was nowhere in line with the outlay. Jeffers cost 700K when the investment in the club was on its knees. I can safely say that nobody would say the club got a fair return on the outlay. Comparatively speaking, he was a worse return on investment than the outlay on Rhodes now. Rhodes is certainly turning out to be a waste of precious resources but not to the extent of the above pair (in comparative terms). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield alien Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: No, that is not what your post inferred. If you talk about wasting money and return on investment, at the time Sinton was signed I think the fee was 2.7 million which would put it among the top fees paid in Europe at that time. His wages would be comparable to some leading international footballers. The return over the years was nowhere in line with the outlay. Jeffers cost 700K when the investment in the club was on its knees. I can safely say that nobody would say the club got a fair return on the outlay. Comparatively speaking, he was a worse return on investment than the outlay on Rhodes now. Rhodes is certainly turning out to be a waste of precious resources but not to the extent of the above pair (in comparative terms). We wer in the pl when we signed sinton so that's a none starter...jr will end up making Jeffers look like a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Absolutely not the right time to sell, he proved yesterday that his clapping for attempted crosses and through balls is better than ever. If he carries on like this the potential is frightening, I reckon he could soon be clapping passes before they are even made. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 JR is our most expensive player in our history. What a flop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield alien Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: No, that is not what your post inferred. If you talk about wasting money and return on investment, at the time Sinton was signed I think the fee was 2.7 million which would put it among the top fees paid in Europe at that time. His wages would be comparable to some leading international footballers. The return over the years was nowhere in line with the outlay. Jeffers cost 700K when the investment in the club was on its knees. I can safely say that nobody would say the club got a fair return on the outlay. Comparatively speaking, he was a worse return on investment than the outlay on Rhodes now. Rhodes is certainly turning out to be a waste of precious resources but not to the extent of the above pair (in comparative terms). What is Chinese for 50k a week over 4 years..plus 7 mill transfer fee..you don't seem to be grasping the outlay and value for money aspect of my argument 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Lichfield alien said: We wer in the pl when we signed sinton so that's a none starter...jr will end up making Jeffers look like a bargain We were in the Premier League but have you any idea where 2.7 million ranked among transfer fees at that time? I am not defending Rhodes or his scoring record but I think you are wrong on both counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sgt Wednesday said: No chance, we had no manager so the chairman got it. Its what we do best and one of the reasons why our players don't really like playing at Hillsborough. Its a football forum Sargeant..not a f.ookin' barracks... Plenty on here have argued their point without resorting to insults... Rhodes isn't doing what we thought he would...Yet you would rather call posters "Thick" for not agreeing with your point of view, instead of simply posting your opinion Its the argument of the playground that..a feeble attempt to bully someone into into submission by setting up a premise of your own making. Its a tranparent ploy that is played out on here, thread upon thread....no f.ooker falls for it anymore..its sodding infantile 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lichfield alien said: We wer in the pl when we signed sinton so that's a none starter...jr will end up making Jeffers look like a bargain that is scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Do you not understand "Conversion rate"? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/sheffield-wednesday/top-scorers Is that not a percentage for shots v shots on target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield alien Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, ChinaOwl said: We were in the Premier League but have you any idea where 2.7 million ranked among transfer fees at that time? I am not defending Rhodes or his scoring record but I think you are wrong on both counts. Well I think you are wrong on all 3 counts..so we might as well leave it at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Lichfield alien said: What is Chinese for 50k a week over 4 years..plus 7 mill transfer fee..you don't seem to be grasping the outlay and value for money aspect of my argument 2.7 million would have been close to the British record fee and probably the equivalent of 40 million + now. His salary would have been around those paid to Arsenal and Manchester United players. That's what I do know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Its a football forum Sargeant..not a f.ookin' barracks... Plenty on here have argued their point without resorting to insults... Rhodes isn't doing what we thought he would...Yet you would rather call posters "Thick" for not agreeing with your point of view, instead of simply posting your opinion Its the argument of the playground that..a feeble attempt to bully someone into into submission by setting up a premise of your own making. Its a tranparent ploy that is played out on here, thread upon thread....no f.ooker falls for it anymore..its sodding infantile So is masked swearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sgt Wednesday said: Is that not a percentage for shots v shots on target? Hutchinson is the give away isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Owlinmad said: So is masked swearing. Thats emphasis........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, asteener1867 said: Hutchinson is the give away isn't he? Are you talking about minutes per goal? Would you be happier for Jordan Rhodes to be on one goal and injured all season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widders Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 20/01/2018 at 19:23, jfr142 said: He should be sold if anyone will have him. Sportsman go through these phases, they pass quicker with support and positive encouragement. Someone telling you your bobbins all the time makes it worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Don’t think many are even arguing over Jordan Rhodes and his goals tally , it’s his overall game and what he brings in terms of positives that is the problem with him , other than 2 passes to Joao yesterday , just what has he contributed. Think I find it alarming that we could splash out so much money on a player who clearly is not anywhere near as good as his price tag . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sgt Wednesday said: Are you talking about minutes per goal? Would you be happier for Jordan Rhodes to be on one goal and injured all season? Nah mate...I would be happy for Rhodes to nab a couple and go on a run... Its not a witch hunt as far as I'm concerned...Its a worry..... I honestly don't know why you asked the question Once again setting your own agenda... Nope...Rhodes hatrick next game for me...its the signs of the chances of that being remote that bother me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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