swfc-dan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Thats all he ever wants to do in away games. Nick a goal and then sit back and hope to see out the whole game. It's clueless utterly clueless. Might have luckily worked in past seasons but this season is showing up his tactical ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I meant even wider than just the playing time on the pitch I mean can you imagine coming to Sheffield Wednesday as a footballer? Being in this squad must be mindblowingly frustrating and confusing There's gotta be some stuff gone on behind the scenes (Abdi, Winnall, Forestieri, Hutch etc etc) It's bonkers Bloody criminal in my eyes Neil, feels like we are back at square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
September65 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 These teams we are losing to are poor. (And I am not arrogantly expecting us to turn everybody over, just being objective.) Birmingham were there for the taking, so were Ipswich, now Norwich. Wasn't at Bolton but same I imagine. If any team wants an opponent to play them back into form it's us. No physicality, no pace, no leadership, no attacking intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I meant even wider than just the playing time on the pitch I mean can you imagine coming to Sheffield Wednesday as a footballer? Being in this squad must be mindblowingly frustrating and confusing There's gotta be some stuff gone on behind the scenes (Abdi, Winnall, Forestieri, Hutch etc etc) It's bonkers True and it makes it all the more frustrating for us. When we had no money a shocking pitch to play football on and a coach who deployed defensive tactics it was hard to watch at times but more understandable. Now we have a huge squad of players, some don't get a look in whatsoever despite being very successful not so long ago at this level, others that are always injured or unfit despite not having these problems in the past and the complete restructure of our medical team. Then there are players like Venancio who left his home country where he was an ever present and a captain for a team in the top flight to pursue his dream of playing in English football.....I bet his dream didn't involve not playing a game in 4 months for a team that is struggling to keep a clean sheet and has had numerous injuries in his position during that time. Nuhiu changes the game as a sub twice in 3 games - in the middle game he is unused as we fail to score against a team with a poor home record. Out of the blue Joao starts 1 game and then is not involved at all the next, Matias starts despite not even being on the bench the months and is then used in a role which seems not to suit him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, September65 said: These teams we are losing to are poor. (And I am not arrogantly expecting us to turn everybody over, just being objective.) Birmingham were there for the taking, so were Ipswich, now Norwich. Wasn't at Bolton but same I imagine. If any team wants an opponent to play them back into form it's us. No physicality, no pace, no leadership, no attacking intent. The table doesn't lie, we have played all of the 10 teams below us and have won only 1 of those games - simply not good enough - and whatever Carlos says it ain't because we do too much attacking and not enough defending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 He just waffles on... he said we had enough chances to win... which in his world is 1 chance. Oliveria could have had a hattrick and that doesn't include his penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Quote errr so we were not defensive enough mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm then he sticks Dave on bizzar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) I think it's getting to the stage that teams relish at the thought of playing us Edited December 9, 2017 by trevdi9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 18 minutes ago, Andoverowl said: Bloody criminal in my eyes Neil, feels like we are back at square one. Thing is in previous years we have had teams where we were creating shedloads of chances but didn't have a striker Then there were times we had great strikers up front and couldn't get the ball to them Literally one or two players away from a fantastic team Then we went and bought up everyone and created this incredible squad of talent and then instead of utilising them, we squad rotated them until they disappeared, we got mystery injuries, falling out's on the training ground and players get dropped after playing well or scoring after a few months in the wilderness It's SOOOOOOOO frustrating Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Thing is in previous years we have had teams where we were creating shedloads of chances but didn't have a striker Then there were times we had great strikers up front and couldn't get the ball to them Literally one or two players away from a fantastic team Then we went and bought up everyone and created this incredible squad of talent and then instead of utilising them, we squad rotated them until they disappeared, we got mystery injuries, falling out's on the training ground and players get dropped after playing well or scoring after a few months in the wilderness It's SOOOOOOOO frustrating Then the fans get the blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Thing is in previous years we have had teams where we were creating shedloads of chances but didn't have a striker Then there were times we had great strikers up front and couldn't get the ball to them Literally one or two players away from a fantastic team Then we went and bought up everyone and created this incredible squad of talent and then instead of utilising them, we squad rotated them until they disappeared, we got mystery injuries, falling out's on the training ground and players get dropped after playing well or scoring after a few months in the wilderness It's SOOOOOOOO frustrating we're like a case study 'how not to build a football team' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: True and it makes it all the more frustrating for us. When we had no money a shocking pitch to play football on and a coach who deployed defensive tactics it was hard to watch at times but more understandable. Now we have a huge squad of players, some don't get a look in whatsoever despite being very successful not so long ago at this level, others that are always injured or unfit despite not having these problems in the past and the complete restructure of our medical team. Then there are players like Venancio who left his home country where he was an ever present and a captain for a team in the top flight to pursue his dream of playing in English football.....I bet his dream didn't involve not playing a game in 4 months for a team that is struggling to keep a clean sheet and has had numerous injuries in his position during that time. Nuhiu changes the game as a sub twice in 3 games - in the middle game he is unused as we fail to score against a team with a poor home record. Out of the blue Joao starts 1 game and then is not involved at all the next, Matias starts despite not even being on the bench the months and is then used in a role which seems not to suit him at all. I completely forgot about Venancio, shows how bad our management is not to give him a try when our CBs are shocking especially with Lees out. Hardly suprising though, CC has done this many times in the past. Wasting money on players for them to never see game action. Clueless management and something we all have to accept from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladeor Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 My opinion from the sofa was that they looked there for the taking after you went ahead courtesy of some abysmal defending. But, in your style of late, that was it. You seemed content to sit back, against a team who haven't won at home for 3 months and would likely throw the kitchen sink at you. My second point would be that you seem very unfit. Your side looked dead after 50 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, Bladeor said: My opinion from the sofa was that they looked there for the taking after you went ahead courtesy of some abysmal defending. But, in your style of late, that was it. You seemed content to sit back, against a team who haven't won at home for 3 months and would likely throw the kitchen sink at you. My second point would be that you seem very unfit. Your side looked dead after 50 minutes. Hate to agree with the blunt here but he sees this and its true , also got a tad tired of Reach's showboating first one ok but 11th one oh dear ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 Hang on though... Didn't Carlos say before the game that the players have complete autonomy to do as they want to change it up a bit? If that's the case then why do we have 50 coaches? The whole situation is utterly bonkers Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddlesdiamondlights Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, OwlofOliveGrove said: So basically he's happy to go 1 up and defend for the rest of the match? We need a change immediately. His tactics are built to p*ss us off at this point. Its the attacking football we were promised its just a shame its the opposing teams doing the attacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 And why are none of them apparently fitness coaches? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 If Big Jack was in charge they would all be back on the moors training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) Carlos does not learn from past mistakes, not that he'd admit to them that is. How often have we seen it, we get the lead and then go negative and invite teams to attack, as we did with Hull for the last 5 minutes. Suicidal tactics given our defence. Time to go,though if DC leaves it much longer it won't matter who we bring in as we'll end up with nothing to play for in the second half of the season. Edited December 9, 2017 by Beauchief Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Our big strengths lay in attack, we have a wealth of attackers at this club that are the envy of the league but our defence is woful. We lost because Carlos didn’t play to our strengths, we lost tonight because we didn’t go for the kill at 1-0 against a side devoid of confidence, instead we tried to sit deep and defend, our defeat tonight is entirely the fault of Carlos Carvalhal. The guy is an absolute fraud and is currently stealing a living. If he had a shred of dignity he would walk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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