York_Owl Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 minute ago, darra said: Or we're hoping that he'll change his mind even at the last minute and sign the contract I hope so darra. Sounds like a bit of a poker game at the moment; who blinks first. We’re not doing ourselves any favours by not playing him in any of the youth games tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think whoever is calling the shots are stupid the kid has got the chance that many kids only dream about , yet through some person/persons being stupid might lose it all , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 We've offered him a deal. The rules on signing young, out of contract players mean it will go to a tribunal if we can't agree a deal that satisfies us and we will get a decent fee, plus a hefty set of sell on and appearance/goal clauses. It's why West Brom pulled out of the Charlie Taylor deal, £4m+ fee, 35% sell on fee etc etc. If he doesn't want to sign with us or thinks he can get better terms elsewhere, then fair enough. It's not a totally one sided thing though and we shouldn't be held to ransom by a player who has not actually achieved anything as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 We can all blame the club for this, but part of me agrees with them. As quite a few posters on here who watch youth games have said, he is certainly not ready for the first team. People say, 'Oh, well Rooney was playing at 16', that means bugger all. Hirst WILL NOT be a new Rooney. His dad certainly hasn't helped this situation by all accounts, and if they are trying to make the club offer a vastly inflated contract to try and keep him happy, then flip 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 10 hours ago, poite said: Or Scotland Or Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Ronseal said: All this badly advised guff is rounduns..one good 4 year comtract could set him up for life..hes got nothing to lose..he will go to leicester..even if he never gets a game or scores a goal..at 22 he will have loads in the bank and he can restart his career at a rham or rochdale or summat Can't disagree with this. And if he was my son I would find it extremely hard to stop him doing this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1867 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I keep seeing that Hirst is demanding ridiculous wages etc. The club offered him £2k a week in the summer but value him at £3m+. Can someone tell me where in the current transfer climate you could sign a player for £3m+ and pay them £2k a week? The problem we have now is that apart from Hooper the club no longer has fit goal scorer available (Rhodes/ff out long term). So in reality we probably need him at the moment, unless we are going to rely on Joao or Nuhiu to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 my lads mate was on 3k per week at leicester in the prem until he messed it up , he is now at Scunny on a lot less , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Reading between the lines I get the impression George Hirst is trying to use his family name to get a better contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, David1867 said: I keep seeing that Hirst is demanding ridiculous wages etc. The club offered him £2k a week in the summer but value him at £3m+. Can someone tell me where in the current transfer climate you could sign a player for £3m+ and pay them £2k a week? The problem we have now is that apart from Hooper the club no longer has fit goal scorer available (Rhodes/ff out long term). So in reality we probably need him at the moment, unless we are going to rely on Joao or Nuhiu to score. I have no idea of the actual figures but imo IF we value him at more than we've been offered it stands to reason he and his advisers will want that commensurate contract unfortunately rumours are this is personal now and I doubt if that is the case a certain someone will back down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Its very simple if your good enough you play ? why not give him the chance to prove him self in the first team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdiwonderland Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Maybe the club just don't think he will make it and inst worth the money he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Of course not knowing the full details but perhaps a compromise could have been given that he gets first team wages once he has played a number of first team games. I don't think he has started a first team game yet? Cant go around giving big wages to people who have not even played fully yet. Shown with FF situation with signing Fletcher that giving players big contracts can put other players noses out of joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumboldowl Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Finlux_Cup said: From what I’ve seen he’s a bloody long way to go! I guess you've not seen him many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdiwonderland Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, dumboldowl said: I guess you've not seen him many times. I agree with Finlux, I think he is a long long way away. I don't think he will become the player lots think. Steady L1/L2 career maybe, but the new Rooney, certainly not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumboldowl Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Reading between the lines I get the impression George Hirst is trying to use his family name to get a better contract. Which lines exactly are you reading between? It is unbelievable how many experts on the subject there are posting on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 11 hours ago, theowlsman said: Destined to be one of the game’s best strikers. And we’re going to watch it unfold at a team like bloody Leicester or Leeds. I’m going to stop myself going on a full-on rant. Grrrr. No he bloody isnt, he's got miles to go yet & lots and lots still to learn. I think your a good poster but that comment is just miles premature IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, dumboldowl said: Which lines exactly are you reading between? It is unbelievable how many experts on the subject there are posting on here. I have never claimed to be an expert. If I only passed an opinion about things I was an expert on I would never talk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 10 hours ago, York_Owl said: I guess the problem is it sounds like we have had some relatively big offers for him; over one million plus if the rumours are true which we have turned down. So in effect we are saying he is a multi million pound player. At which point he can then turn around and say well if that’s what you value me at pay me the going rate for a player of that value. This is known as Emerson Thome syndrome. Monday ............. " Hi , it's Gianluca calling from Stamford Bridge. I want Thome. I'll giva you £6m for him" "Look, you listen here. You can swing, you swarthy get. We want £8m or nothing. Don't call again till you have a serious offer. We're not a selling club. Goodbye!" Tuesday ............... "Hi. It's Emersons agent. I heard you say Emerson is an £8m player. Why are you paying him like a £200k player? It's time for a wage more in line with an £8m player" Wednesday ................... "Hello? Gianluca? Yes. It's me ...erm hahah......just a joke old boy, just a joke...... Yes. ok...sorry about that, swarthy was a bit harsh.....right...this Emerson business. I might have been a bit hasty. I've decided you can have him for that £6m you mentioned.....what?!.....£4m...well that's two millions less than you said last week!! ......no...no dont' hang up!....but...but..well yes I know what I said but...but.......i mean.......ok , ok. £4m then" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Football is broken. Doubt the figures quoted on here are true mind, but young lads that play youth team football, asking for more per week than many working class people get a month, is just so wrong. Not having a go at GH, I don't know the details so that'd be daft. But the whole game and the people within it, are in cloud Cuckoo land. They all just want to hope the bubble never bursts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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