Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Grandad said: The OP is mistaken We've still got the £6m we bid for Morrison to spend Bidding £6m for Morrison tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killamarshtrekowl Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 21 minutes ago, JoshTheOwl said: He also kept going on about how one of the reasons we signed him was because he wanted an opportunity in England no mention of his qualities You obviously didn't listen to the whole interview. He said he knows him well and he's one of the best center backs in Portugal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 minute ago, killamarshtrekowl said: You obviously didn't listen to the whole interview. He said he knows him well and he's one of the best center backs in Portugal! Don't try and broadside the OP with a fact!!! Venancio has been well scouted by a lot of big clubs across Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 28 minutes ago, JoshTheOwl said: He also kept going on about how one of the reasons we signed him was because he wanted an opportunity in England no mention of his qualities Apart from the fact he captained Setubal against us so we would have seen first hand what he had to offer...don't let facts get in the way of your drivel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Bodhidharma said: Just listening to the interview When talking about the us getting Frederico Venancio -about the loan to buy. Said was a good deal because we can't spend money. My understanding of the interview was that CC said he was a good signing because he cost us no money so didn't affect us with regards to FFP. I don't for one minute think that theres no money available for transfers. Carlos broken English shouldn't really be taken word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 I really don't pay to much attention to what he says any more, he said we wouldn't sign Rhodes, we all know how that turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, full fathom five said: My understanding of the interview was that CC said he was a good signing because he cost us no money so didn't affect us with regards to FFP. I don't for one minute think that theres no money available for transfers. Carlos broken English shouldn't really be taken word for word. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 43 minutes ago, Grandad said: The OP is mistaken We've still got the £6m we bid for Morrison to spend Wasn't that the line used that managed to keep them quiet at the steering meeting? A week later the club was trying to borrow money from the fans. It was a shame that no-one at the fans forum questioned these contradictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 The signs have been clear for a while that we are up against the FFP limits. This makes the signing of Jordan Rhodes utterly wasteful and stupid. We are now in a position where we are almost down to the bare bones in defence, just 3 league games into the season, and we spent a large amount of our allowed budget on a position that was already crowded. I'd like to see us sign another central defender before the transfer window closes for increased cover, but I'm not optimistic, and even if we do get one is he going to have to be a free transfer or loan which would severely limit the options? Bit of a shambles really. And then there's the issue that we have so many players in the latter half of their careers with reduced re-sale value. That shows a lack of foresight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 4 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: The signs have been clear for a while that we are up against the FFP limits. This makes the signing of Jordan Rhodes utterly wasteful and stupid. We are now in a position where we are almost down to the bare bones in defence, just 3 league games into the season, and we spent a large amount of our allowed budget on a position that was already crowded. I'd like to see us sign another central defender before the transfer window closes for increased cover, but I'm not optimistic, and even if we do get one is he going to have to be a free transfer or loan which would severely limit the options? Bit of a shambles really. And then there's the issue that we have so many players in the latter half of their careers with reduced re-sale value. That shows a lack of foresight too. This was exactly why last week I said I'd sell FF and Rhodes. I'd much rather keep both but the balance is all wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 We will have to see what this new lad from Portugal is like but its slightly frustrating we didn't sign him in pre season to give him a few warm up games to bed in. Always difficult to come to a new country as a defender and hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) We'll bring in another centre half before the end of the month which gives us defensive options of Hunt Palmer Loovens Lees Venancio Pudil Reach Hutchinson + new CH Is this not adequate? And we get to keep Rhodes and Forestieri Edited August 17, 2017 by BIG D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 51 minutes ago, Andoverowl said: Bidding £6m for Morrison tho Turning down £6m for Morrison though!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Said months ago we'd have to sell in the summer. I wouldn't have been too upset if we'd sold Forestieri to fund the defenders we needed to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) Just now, BIG D said: We'll bring in another centre half before the end of the month which gives us defensive options of Hunt Palmer Loovens Lees Venancio Pudil Reach Hutchinson + new CH Is this not adequate? And we get to keep Rhodes and Forestieri On the assumption that we do sign another central defender (didn't Carvalhal indicate a little while ago that he was happy with the cover he had for now with Hutchinson and Pudil), they may be a cheap option due to the financial situation. And although that would give us the numbers we need, I think there is an argument that the quality is short of what we need for a sustained promotion challenge, especially at full back. Our goals conceded record is very good but it comes at the expense of what we create at the other end. And relying on players from other positions should be an emergency option, not among your first choices. Taking Hutchinson out of midfield takes away our only real physical presence at that position. Edited August 17, 2017 by DJMortimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F. Spiksley Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 Personally, I'd like to see us sell FF to the first serious bidder, and not for FFP reasons. He's a rotten egg IMHO, no end product and not a great team player. Already had a strop, now another one, in the form of spurious bust up rumours, strange that these incidents happen during transfer windows. Let him go FFS. There, I've said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, F. Spiksley said: Personally, I'd like to see us sell FF to the first serious bidder, and not for FFP reasons. He's a rotten egg IMHO, no end product and not a great team player. Already had a strop, now another one, in the form of spurious bust up rumours, strange that these incidents happen during transfer windows. Let him go FFS. There, I've said it. Where do you reckon he should go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 9 minutes ago, F. Spiksley said: Personally, I'd like to see us sell FF to the first serious bidder, and not for FFP reasons. He's a rotten egg IMHO, no end product and not a great team player. Already had a strop, now another one, in the form of spurious bust up rumours, strange that these incidents happen during transfer windows. Let him go FFS. There, I've said it. No end product? You serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/07e45781-72f5-40b1-b788-0702287c8c49?intc_type=singletheme&intc_location=bbcthree&intc_campaign=bbcthree&intc_linkname=article_footballerfallout_contentcard14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 (edited) The messages coming out of the club are contradictory, and have been for some time. Whether this is by design, or sheer incompetence, it's pretty difficult to tell. Would we have signed Rhodes if that was all that was in the pot? Could we have bid for Morrison, if there was no money available? Edited August 17, 2017 by gurujuan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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