Blue and white Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, owls101 said: Sums it up. It's an old fashioned attitude but I want players that will run through walls when they put that shirt on. I'm so sick of the petulant tool. Bitching and moaning every 5 seconds cos the ref won't give him a free kick. Just flipping get on with it! let this man get his hands on him, he will fecking play where he's told then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, Manchester_Owl said: It is clear as day to me that this article has been put out for one reason only........ ...."It is believed that Wednesday remain in contract talks with free agent Swiss Johan Djourou."..... The Star made a wee wee tail up and have tried to rectify the issue by putting out a bullsh1t article to bury the real news. I now expect him to sign in the next couple of days. Unfortunately, as mentioned by management of our club and Carlos in his pre match interview our fans can't handle social media. At all!!!! We are more divided than ever, with the best squad we've seen in over 20 years. It's crazy. For what it's worth, FF should be thinking about attacking only and he clearly says in that interview..... once I he uses his energy to track back he doesn't have enough to go and attack. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this quote. Neither should go before August. Play João more, he is the partner that works with all strikers as he stretches teams. Stop being self-destructive. Selling our top goal scorers is fecking stupid. It's no t fecking stupid - it's common sense - in a team sport that disruptive influences have to go. He clearly doesn't want to play where he is strongest for us. No club can tolerate that - it's a recipe for disaster. Every player is replaceable. Move him on, stop getting emotionally attached to an employee and let's bring in players that will run through walls for the club. Edited August 7, 2017 by RichSheffWeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Seen it mentioned a lot but can't see it myself....where abouts in the article does it say FF has refused to play anywhere but up front? Or that Carlos let's him pick his own position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted member Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 FFS How many more times?? HE HASN'T SAID HE WON'T PLAY WIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls101 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: FFS How many more times?? HE HASN'T SAID HE WON'T PLAY WIDE Perhaps not explicitly but it's his attitude and demeanour that winds people up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Let's face it, 4-4-2 is never going to work with the players we have and key areas haven't been strengthened to accommodate a back 3 in a 3-5-2. Abdi should be the first name on the team sheet every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 11 hours ago, theowlsman said: We play better with him out wide. Tell him to like it or lump it, or join McGugan in the naughty corner. Inconsistency breeds niggles within the squad Couldn't agree more. One rule for his favourites and another for the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, fatzooma said: Let's face it, 4-4-2 is never going to work with the players we have and key areas haven't been strengthened to accommodate a back 3 in a 3-5-2. Abdi should be the first name on the team sheet every week. Totally agree with you but our illustrious leader says no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, owls101 said: Perhaps not explicitly but it's his attitude and demeanour that winds people up. What? that he gets the ar5e if he's subbed and doesn't want to be or pi55ed off at getting no protection or decisions from refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Seems to me that CC has thrown Forestieri under the bus here. He must have known what the reaction to the article would be. It's fair enough that a player WHEN ASKED BY THE MANAGER says where he wants to play. I doubt whether CC said btw I'm going to tell the fans what you say so be careful. Predictably it's gone down like a lead balloon and I was furious when I read it too. He does need to mainly play down the left rather in a front two. We also have at least 6 other central options for the front Two. Brian Clough used to say he would listen to a players opinion and they would then both decide that Clough was right. Why did CC make this public making himself look weak? The only answer I can think of is that we are being warmed up for him being sold. If that's the case it's a pretty cowardly way to hang our best player out to dry to save your own skin. Edited August 7, 2017 by Warnocchio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 What a few have suspected all along and a hangover from last season and obviously part of the deal for him to stay then. The only "positive" I can take from this is that it is an interview prior to flogging him i.e. to try and get across (badly) that the player puts himself before the team. I'm not going to get too sentimal personally. He thinks he's better than he is and bottles it in big games and in vital moments. Reyt start to the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls101 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, woodys said: What? that he gets the ar5e if he's subbed and doesn't want to be or pi55ed off at getting no protection or decisions from refs. How does any of that make him or us play any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD2OWL Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1) Carlos should have gone in May 2) FF should have been sold when he refused to play for the club first time around There would now not be a 20 page discussion about a petulant rascal that thinks he is bigger than the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodys Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) @owls101I don't think it makes us play any better or worse or that he's the only footballer to be a bit emotional esp when of Italian/ argie descent Edited August 7, 2017 by woodys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Copthorneowl Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 11 hours ago, Grandad said: I'm absolutely amazed it took this long. This is a disgraceful interview by the manager, once again pointing the finger at the best player we have And the responses already suggest it will work. People are blaming FF instead of pointing the finger where it needs pointing. I'm done with Carlos on the strength of this. Terrible management this. Awful Absolutely 100% spot on post. CC has now hung FF and Rhodes out to dry I'm really surprised given his guarded and positive comments since he arrived. I'm afraid this more than anything shows he's feeling it and sadly losing it big time. Unfortunately this is music to the ears of all the Owlstalk anti Forestiero brigade - we're orchestrating our own downfall as FF is crucial to our progress imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Amy player who refuses to play in a position the manager asks should not be at the club. However a manager would deal with it efficiently with decorum and tact. Not in the press, time for both to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlZfan84 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 So much negativity around the place at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Copthorneowl said: Absolutely 100% spot on post. CC has now hung FF and Rhodes out to dry I'm really surprised given his guarded and positive comments since he arrived. I'm afraid this more than anything shows he's feeling it and sadly losing it big time. Unfortunately this is music to the ears of all the Owlstalk anti Forestiero brigade - we're orchestrating our own downfall as FF is crucial to our progress imo. Music to the ears of the pigs as our season implodes before it's even started. Time for DC to show firm leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 He didn't hang Rhodes out to dry, he was caught out on that one and then it was used by United fans and the more unbalanced amongst us as a stick to beat him with. This is different and tbh just confirms what a good few thought all along. It's what happens when you have good, desirable players in your team and something we haven't been used to for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD2OWL Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I am also guessing that this the reason that Adam Reach managed to get 90 minutes on Saturday as he was pure Gash.... Blame Carlos all you like, if he can't make the changes we want because a player has openly said he does not want to play on the left because "he has no energy" what can he do? No Energy ffs .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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