Fessi

[akbuk]

11 minutes ago, canadianowl said:

 

Since we only seem to play a 4-4-2 with 2 defensive mids, then Fessi playing on the wing forces him to act as a makeshift defender half the game. Good luck having him involved at all acting like a makeshift LB half the time. He is not a defensive player whatsoever, but he does hustle back through the middle. He either doesn't play at all via a 4-4-2, or he is effective out wide in a 4-3-3 or 3-4-3. But Carlos refuses to play anything other than 4-4-2, so Fessi either plays up front or not at all. And if he never plays while we struggle to perform or score any goals what does everyone do? WHY ISN'T OUR TOP SCORER PLAYING WHEN WE CAN'T SCORE!

 

The problem isn't Fessi, or Rhodes, or Reach, or Boyd, or Hooper, it's f*cking Carlos. You can't sack off half the starting XI, but you certainly replace the tactics that accommodates all our talent appropriately.

It's not Carlos ,stop defending a player who refused to play last year and is up to the same tricks this season,he won't be at Hillsborough much longer 

Edited August 6, 2017 by akbuk

[canadianowl]

2 minutes ago, striker said:

FF isnt a defender, CC's tactic force the LM to act primarily  as a defensive  shield, rather than attacking outlet.

 

Very poor for CC to reveal this information to deflect from his own inadequacy. Not sure it's FF's fault, the lad is clearly an attacking player and needs to be facing the opposition goal.

 

That said, Hooper should have started against Preston.

 

 

 

Exactly. And Reach has the same problems too. He either can play LB or play LW and not spend all his time worrying about covering defense for our two sh*tty wingbacks Pudil and Hunt.

[akbuk]

18 minutes ago, DobbinTheDonkey said:

 

Why is it a terrible attitude?

He was asked why his performances were down. He replied because he thinks tracking back effects his attacking game and prefers to play up front.

If he does play on the left and doesn't appear to try then that's a terrible attitude. He he is asked to play on the left and refuses then that's a terrible attitude.

He's  playing games to get a transfer

[McRightSide]

54 minutes ago, ThomasSWFC said:

Nope - (4:53). His lack of tracking back nearly led to a goal. 

 

 

1 moment

 

if you look you'll find another in the play offs too

 

that doesn't mean you're correct

 

for every time you find him not tracking back, I'm sure I could find 10 where he does

[McRightSide]

This is why clubs don't communicate openly to fans btw

 

 

[canadianowl]

2 minutes ago, akbuk said:

It's not Carlos stop defending a player who refused to play last year and is up to the same tricks this season,he won't be at Hillsborough much longer 

 

When numerous players refuse to play out of position, they don't play at all. Are McGugan, Fessi, Rhodes, (Abdi??) all petulant, or do they see the system they are shoehorned into doesn't work? Hell, I doubt Abdi is even injured, he just refuses to play like Carlos tells Bannan to, so he never makes the bench. When it starts to become "everyone else is a primadonna" maybe it isn't the players, maybe it's the manager?

[NeonLeon]

Like others have said, it shows a lack of understanding by CC if anything. 

 

Forestieri has basically said in your system I can't function on the left. CC always bangs on about balance. You can have a wide player that doesn't track back as much if you've got someone to balance it out on the opposite side. Especially if it's  a harder worker like a George Boyd maybe? 

 

Maybe Rhodes should go in and tell CC he can't play upfront. The system is failing him as much as it's failing FF out wide. 

Edited August 6, 2017 by NeonLeon

[33]

He isnt good enough up top.

 

Me... I would be telling him where he plays and if he doesn't like it he can go and sit on any other decent team's bench or play in their reserves.

 

Our best player when he wants to be when out left.

 

Not that good though that we can't manage without

 

Weak management if the case that CC put him up front because of this.

 

Hooper miles better in no 10 role.

[Robdylan]

2 hours ago, owls_wawaw said:

looks as though fessi does not want to be on the left and wants to play more centrally.....as he can't track back.....doesn't have the energy...bloody ridiculous this no player should be tracking back in my opinion. that's what the defence is for....fessi is our best player and we should be attacking every team week in week out 

 

This will and up costing Carlos his job. 

 

Fernando has to play where it benefits the team the most.

 

There are alternatives though.

 

We could play him behind a front 2, or on the left of a front 3, in a 4-3-3 formation. But the obvious issue with the 4-3-3, is who to play on the right of it. It would never work with Wallace, Boyd, Reach, or any of the other strikers. So we'd need to sign someone. 

 

If nothing has changed after the QPR game, both of them are going to suffer huge criticism. 

[BobsMagicCalculator]

Some of you need a good shake, this is our leading goal scorer and assists man over the last two seasons, and i'm reading 'get rid' 'bench him'.  The manager has basically cost the chairman a lot of money with this article, either its sell for less than you could have last season or its dump him with the U23's either way with this STRAY lingo from Carlos, it has cost the club serious money whatever happens from here.

[Blue and white]

16 minutes ago, Kopparberg said:

Despite FF being a pedantic brat, or CC dropping a clanger to the press... whichever... 

 

As said previously, we need things put right vs QPR. 

 

Team selection.

Formation.

Choice of subs.

Player positions. 

 

Nip it in the bud. CC has to show that he can use this squad properly. Then carry on doing so. 

[IstillhateSteveBould]

It's quite incredible how a handful of games a year and a half ago (and probably holmowl's bizzare obsession), have convinced so many people that Forestieri is a better left winger than a forward. 

 

That is all it is. Literally a handful of games. Wolves, Birmingham, Cardiff, Norwich.... 

 

He played on the left in 15 different games last season. Played well in 1. 

 

The other 14, he didn't look comfortable and we played worse while he was there. 

 

 

He's a forward. Not a left winger. 

[DobbinTheDonkey]

He would make a very good left forward

[talon]

2 hours ago, Grandad said:

I'm absolutely amazed it took this long. 

 

This is a disgraceful interview by the manager, once again pointing the finger at the best player we have 

 

And the responses already suggest it will work. People are blaming FF instead of pointing the finger where it needs pointing. I'm done with Carlos on the strength of this. 

 

Terrible management this. Awful

No player is bigger than the club, and that includes Forestieri. And no player gets to insist on where he will or won't play. We can always do better without this nonsense, it's too reminiscent of the situation we had with Carbone (baby-gro anyone?). We need less of that type of crap. 100% in agreement with Carlos on this. He knows he's getting slaughtered by the fans for playing FF up front, and it's surely only fair that the truth comes out.

Get him sold.

[NeonLeon]

Just now, IstillhateSteveBould said:

It's quite incredible how a handful of games a year and a half ago (and probably holmowl's bizzare obsession), have convinced so many people that Forestieri is a better left winger than a forward. 

 

That is all it is. Literally a handful of games. Wolves, Birmingham, Cardiff, Norwich.... 

 

He played on the left in 15 different games last season. Played well in 1. 

 

The other 14, he didn't look comfortable and we played worse while he was there. 

 

 

He's a forward. Not a left winger. 

 

Hes a shocking foil for whoever he plays with though that's the problem. 

 

You're sacrificing the ability of a Hooper, Rhodes and Fletcher for pleasing someone who is more that capable in a different position. A position that suits the team better aswell.

[33]

Thing is... he does track back.

More than most if not all.

[Kopparberg]

Several mentions in this thread to play 4-3-3 

 

You all better be sorry if it turns into a defensive 4-5-1 

 

 

[NeonLeon]

1 minute ago, 33 said:

Thing is... he does track back.

More than most if not all.

 

I reckon if you looked at the stats his turn over of possession in our half is one of the highest in the team aswell.

[Holmowl]

8 minutes ago, NeonLeon said:

Like others have said, it shows a lack of understanding by CC if anything. 

 

Forestieri has basically said in your system I can't function on the left. CC always bangs on about balance. You can have a wide player that doesn't track back as much if you've got someone to balance it out on the opposite side. Especially if it's  a harder worker like a George Boyd maybe? 

 

Maybe Rhodes should go in and tell CC he can't play upfront. The system is failing him as much as it's failing FF out wide. 

 

Nice theory, until you look at how he and the team clearly can function when he has played left.

 

P15. W11. D3. L1. GF35. GA13

 

Doesnt wash does it? It's self, self, self.

 

 

[NorfolkNChance]

33 minutes ago, scram said:

All this kind of shyte would be avoided if CC looked at the riches he has at his disposal and played a formation to suit

3-5-fecking 2!