Blue and white Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He needs to go during the close season as do a few others, I wouldn't be to unhappy if we made up a percentage of his wages for 12 months if it meant him coming off our books. Quality player with a reported bad attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, trevdi9 said: wasted tallent , there's kids out there who would crawl over broken glass to have a chance like he has ,makes me puke how they throw it all away Someone once said talent is god given, the sin is to waste it. This is a classic case, sadly he isn't the only footballer to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Morepork said: True it is a total waste of our money and his career. I've seen no evidence to suggest our owner is/was not willing to subsidise his wages on a loan to another club though? Surely as others have pointed out the issue here is that someone has to want him for him to leave on loan or otherwise, it's a shame because the kid can play in the right system. I was delighted the day he signed, this was definitely a case of the new owner trying to give the fans what they wanted and there weren't many on here against it and certainly nobody could have predicted this situation. Some of us didn't think he was a good signing at the time; and this situation isn't a million miles from his Watford one especially and forest one. Talented player but not the kind to flourish unless the entire team is set up with him as the main man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 6 hours ago, Plonk said: I left my job because my boss didn't like me. Worst decision of his career. Who are you rambling on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Ash76 said: I can't believe people are defending someone that's not given 100% to the club he comes into training ,he plays for the dev squad when told to ,as far as I know he's not come out in the media slagging the club off ,he's honoured his contract if he hadn't the club would sack him and save themselves a lot of money .his only crime is that he doesn't fit into how carlos wants to play ............sometimes players want out but clubs hold them to there contract( as is the clubs right) all mcgugan is doing is the same .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Rubbish, he's going through the motions. No ambition. You only have to look at the picture of him doing his coaching badges to see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 McGugan will be given a squad number this summer, and will be playing first team football next season for Sheffield Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, torryowl said: he comes into training ,he plays for the dev squad when told to ,as far as I know he's not come out in the media slagging the club off ,he's honoured his contract if he hadn't the club would sack him and save themselves a lot of money .his only crime is that he doesn't fit into how carlos wants to play ............sometimes players want out but clubs hold them to there contract( as is the clubs right) all mcgugan is doing is the same .......... Club will be there long after he has wasted his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, daztheowl said: McGugan will be given a squad number this summer, and will be playing first team football next season for Sheffield Wednesday. I think Carlos has to leave before that happens. Its plainly obvious the two don't get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, daztheowl said: McGugan will be given a squad number this summer, and will be playing first team football next season for Sheffield Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mountain Owl said: I think Carlos has to leave before that happens. Its plainly obvious the two don't get on. I've a sneaking suspicion that Carlos advised him to take that coaching course. Perhaps now realises not to question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coyt Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Certainly not trying to compare the two players but I remember when Giles Coke was left out of the squad completely by Gary Megson and then all of a sudden made a complete surprise return against Hull away (when we won on sky), when Dave Jones was in charge and to be fair didn't have a bad run in the squad. I'm hoping Lewis can do the same as I really rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlandished Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 7 hours ago, Coyt said: Certainly not trying to compare the two players but I remember when Giles Coke was left out of the squad completely by Gary Megson and then all of a sudden made a complete surprise return against Hull away (when we won on sky), when Dave Jones was in charge and to be fair didn't have a bad run in the squad. I'm hoping Lewis can do the same as I really rate him. Is that a way of saying you want Carlos sacked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 8 hours ago, daztheowl said: McGugan will be given a squad number this summer, and will be playing first team football next season for Sheffield Wednesday. I can't wait for Football Manager 2018, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 19 hours ago, helmut_rooster said: Would you leave you job if your boss didn't like you knowing that by staying you'd earn a shıt load regardless? I guess you'd just leave then and hope to find employment elsewhere and hope for the best? Down to pride in yourself I suppose and the chance to shove it down Carlos's throat by doing the business at another club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellybean Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 doing his coaching badges? interesting. imagine him trying to lecture you to push yourself that bit harder when you knew he'd spent 2/3rds of his career more or less on strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He's not really a footballer, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, jellybean said: doing his coaching badges? interesting. imagine him trying to lecture you to push yourself that bit harder when you knew he'd spent 2/3rds of his career more or less on strike. You can see the coaching session McGughan Listen lad I know you were signed as winger but i'd like to play you as a left back Player No don't fancy it rather play on the wing end of argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 He really is an excellent player, and it's a shame it hasn't worked out for him since Carlos came in. How we could do with a midfielder chipping in with 10+ goals a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 The lad has got quality , that isnt in question, but its sad he seems happy to waste his best years sitting on his arse picking up good money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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