Bukta Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Has to be our new centre half partner to Lees. Centre half was where he learned his trade at Chelsea - touted as the the next John Terry. Distribution from the back would be so much better then it is now. Very pacey. So much less demanding on his body - may even get a full season out of him. I am sure he would buy into this. The answer lies within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) Is he tall enough to partner Lees? At times we have looked a bit short without Loovens imo Class player though Edited May 20, 2017 by modboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bukta Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 Genuinely no idea how tall the lad is but he looks tall enough to be a centre half (looks a bit taller than John Terry)? Any statto's feel free to disprove me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, modboy said: Is he tall enough to partner Lees? At times we have looked a bit short without Loovens imo Class player though Timing and reading sort that out. How tall was Cannavaro? 5"8 , 5"9 something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodseats Owl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I'm not having this, Sammy at Centre Half, would make a terrible mess of his hair. Class player though. UTO's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Timing and reading sort that out. How tall was Cannavaro? 5"8 , 5"9 something like that. But who did he play next to? Again don't know. Can see it being him or Tom though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 If he can just cut out the yellow and red cards , i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorfolkNChance Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Best position is centre half, he was pushed back into CM because we failed to sign the midfielder we needed, if that gets addressed in the summer I would play him centre back. I rate him in midfield but spends most time as a third centre back which doesn't help our play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, modboy said: But who did he play next to? Again don't know. Can see it being him or Tom though It was that Nesta, who was another I don't think can have been much over 6"0 himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Sammy started out as a center half i believe at Chelski and was tipped for great things till he got injured ,so i wouldn't have a problem with him making the job his own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 We tried it this season We couldn't defend set pieces without Loovens. You need a 6'4 beast , afraid there is no getting away from it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, oldishowl said: We tried it this season We couldn't defend set pieces without Loovens. You need a 6'4 beast , afraid there is no getting away from it That's my thoughts too, especially in the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 We could try signing a left footed 6'4" beast then and play a back 3. Lees Hutch Beast. With Loovens as cover. Not much different to what we do most of the time anyhow when the full backs push forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shez owl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 We con get the real John Terry now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Fessi Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: It was that Nesta, who was another I don't think can have been much over 6"0 himself. Size means nothing in Italian football, they all grow up learning how to play that defensive role perfectly and not relying on physicality, they are far superior to any English defender, light years ahead tactically & footballing ability wise - can't apply those concepts to the Championship. As much as we need to replace Loovens I don't think Hutchinson is the answer long term. We seriously miss Loovens height and strength at the back when he doesn't play, I think Hutchinson could do a job there in a back 3 perhaps but i'd rather see us sign a younger, stronger, taller CB - according to wiki' Hutchinson 5'11 Lees 6'1 Loovens 6'3 When you look at the rest of our side being pretty small as well, having only one outfield player above 6 ft would make us very vulnerable at set piece plays and the classic hoofball tactic..which happen to be many Championship sides speciality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Lionel Fessi said: Size means nothing in Italian football, they all grow up learning how to play that defensive role perfectly and not relying on physicality, Crikey! They had plenty of physicality in the 60's and 70's. Achillies rakes, eye gauging, off ball elbows, the two footed ankle breaker, the nut to the back of the head! I know what you mean though about the culture of defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 We've tried it and it didn't work. He's good cover for central defence but we need a top class player who is known for playing that position. Sweet Christmas... We've needed a central defender and midfield beast for over a year and still not bloody sorted it. Makes me rage when I think about the money spunked on squad players who contribute nothing when we have glaring gaps in the squad for over a full year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) Lovens hasnt put a foot wrong in the last 3 months Unless you count that fluff vs hudds away..hard as rock with velvet feet People talk like we dont stop conceding Edited May 20, 2017 by HIGHERSTATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I thought he was excellent at CB earlier in the season and him and Lees would be great. Thing I like about Sam when he drops in between Lees and Loovens at present is he immediately ups the tempo and has an excellent long range pass. Only reason I think he was pushed back into midfield is because David Jones was not the answer at holding midfielder and couldn't tackle for toffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S63 Owl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Decent cover but think he adds more to midfield, when he covered in defence though he did seem to pick up a lot less bookings though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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