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9 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

The ones that are in form.

 

Posters state that we are a better team with him in the side but the points haul says otherwise.

 

Yeah, as I said, points tally comes down to whether a single player is in the side or not. Nothing else involved. Cheers.

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8 minutes ago, swfc4_sufc0 said:

So, when they're all in form, who's a better player than Lee in midfield?

 

Of the current players Jones and Hutch.

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14 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

The ones that are in form.

 

Posters state that we are a better team with him in the side but the points haul says otherwise.

 

Which points haul is this? Are you referring to earlier this season compared to now? Or do you mean last season compared to this season? 

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8 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

The ones that are in form.

 

Posters state that we are a better team with him in the side but the points haul says otherwise.

 

That is a meaningless stat as are most quoted on here

 

Takes no account of opposition, how other players played etc

For all it shows Lee might have been our best player in every game he played but if other players were poor and we lost then points gained would be less.

 

eg Lee had a fantastic game at Derby. We lost to 2 set piece goals when our centre halfs failed to mark at corners. 

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1 minute ago, oldishowl said:

 

That is a meaningless stat as are most quoted on here

 

Takes no account of opposition, how other players played etc

For all it shows Lee might have been our best player in every game he played but if other players were poor and we lost then points gained would be less.

 

eg Lee had a fantastic game at Derby. We lost to 2 set piece goals when our centre halfs failed to mark at corners. 

 

Not only that but it also negates the fact we were terrible at the start of this year and have improved consistently as it's gone on, with one or two little wobbles

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8 minutes ago, MOwl said:

 

Which points haul is this? Are you referring to earlier this season compared to now? Or do you mean last season compared to this season? 

This season

 

14 minutes ago, Sonny said:

 

Yeah, as I said, points tally comes down to whether a single player is in the side or not. Nothing else involved. Cheers.

Would you rather we just take into account the games where Lee played and we won. Is that fairer for you?

 

6 minutes ago, oldishowl said:

 

That is a meaningless stat as are most quoted on here

 

Takes no account of opposition, how other players played etc

For all it shows Lee might have been our best player in every game he played but if other players were poor and we lost then points gained would be less.

 

eg Lee had a fantastic game at Derby. We lost to 2 set piece goals when our centre halfs failed to mark at corners. 

We could also look at his contribution in the Bristol City game where his goals won the game but also his suicidal back pass that gave Bristol City a penalty and got Hutchinson sent off. We got lucky in more ways than one with the late goals, the missed penalty and the Bristol City player getting sent off.

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3 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said:

 

 

Would you rather we just take into account the games where Lee played and we won. Is that fairer for you?

 

Why bother? Our improved points tally is purely down to one single player not being available for selection. Simple as that, isn't it?

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18 minutes ago, Shifty Powers said:

Best midfielder on our books and one of the most underrated midfielders in this division. 

 

His drive, intensity and fitness have a huge bearing on how quick our tempo is and that is something that has been badly missing all season. 

 

Delighted to have him back. 

 

 

Bang on.

 

integral part of our team & has established himself as a very good  championship player with goals,energy & work rate.

 

He's a player that could step up if we got promotion 

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Crikey, anyone who is a little disappointed lee might get a game will be f.ookin' devastated when Hutch comes back.......

Its simply GOOd news....I know its hard for some  Owls fans to get their heads around it when summatt good happens...Lets hope we have to get used to it eh?

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1 hour ago, Kameron said:

 

Of the current players Jones and Hutch.

 

Very different players.

 

Neither Hutch nor Jones play the Lee box-to-box role. Jones and Hutch, if played together, would be awful. Even less creativity than we have now. 

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Not one of these players, even fully fit, are guaranteed a start.

 

Rhodes

Hooper

Fletch

FF

Lee

Hutch

Bannan

Jones

Reach

 

Macca and Buckley aren't getting near a start.

 

Amazing quality of forward/midfielders in our squad.

 

Wallace is pretty much the only certainty. That's some complement to how he has been playing.

 

 

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