Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 5 hours ago, S_W_F_C said: It's to late to make a change now we just have to accept what we are. The rest of the season will be boring and turgid football that will hopefully get us top 6. Anyone waiting for this to click will have a long wait, it won't. Serious question as I can't remember the date.. When did Milan pull the trigger on Megson ? Just thought as typing I could look up the United game but folks on here are normally quicker than Google (tho not always as accurate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 17 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: What's the bigger picture? this one enlarged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
since59owe Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 18 hours ago, RyanSWFC said: We are doing a lot better this season in a much more difficult league... You only have to look at how much Derby have spent over the years and still haven't managed to get out of this league to know how difficult it is. Why do people expect us to be top 2 in the first season we've had a bit of money? Don't understand it. We're up there and doing alright. Look at the bigger picture before over reacting. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, adelphi1867 said: Totally agree, we a group of talented players , but not a TEAM of players, we lack organisation and discipline, this comes from changing the team, espescially the defence. Why was Fox played when he was not fully fit, Reech should have stayed there and played Macmanaman wide left, why was Hunt brought in?, it seems as if Kickaball makes these changes just for the fun of it. That's an interesting question about Fox as it flies directly in the face of what Carlos claims about only playing players who are 100% henergised Edited February 26, 2017 by Captain Sl-OWL-ly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socialist_Owl Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 10 hours ago, bradowl said: We're not only club spending lots of money in this league. Some have spent far more and are nowhere near play offs. Derby? Had they had the right manager from the season start, they'd be in the playoffs. At our expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sl-OWL-ly Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 minute ago, S_W_F_C said: About this time but miracles don't happen twice That wasn't a miracle, more like insider trading... Jones was already lined up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 6 minutes ago, Socialist_Owl said: Derby? Had they had the right manager from the season start, they'd be in the playoffs. At our expense. Another opinion dressed up as fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Am I the only one here who thinks Carlos is a good coach? Last year he turned defence into attack quickly and it caught teams out. This year it's been more difficult to get behind teams when they sit deeper against us, especially without Lee and Hooper. Exceptions are games like Newcastle and Huddersfield because they've come at us. Since Jan he's got a few more options - Abdi match fit, McM (playing more than last 20), Rhodes / Winnal together with FF behind - whatever it is, everyone has a different opinion. Anyway, I trust him to get this right and I think by the play-offs we'll be flying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 wheather he stays or Go's is down to Mr C , we will have no say in it ,but Mr Chansiri stated when he took over that he wanted the prem in 2017 , personally i will be very shocked if that happens on present showings on the pitch , now will it be a case of Mr C getting rid to save face , or persisting with CC i feel the former will happen tbh The money spent is not to be sniffed at and will go a long way in deciding Carlos's future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Woooohoooo we are doing better than last season lets all have a party because we are doing marginally better with loads better players this season than last Still 6th with a total of 10 defeats already which is last seasons total loses and we are bound to lose more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluey9 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Anybody who thinks that this level of investment from Chansiri will carry on forever, need to take a rain check That's why we need a return now because it's not sustainable I think Carlos is a great guy and was a breath of fresh air last year, but this season has seen us stagnate, we haven't moved forward. Just not good enough in my opinion, after all the funds that have been made available Lets hope we we have a dramatic improvement over the next few games Otherwise we might sneak into the playoffs and get totally outfoxed again if we get to Wembley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Im not saying he should be sacked. However I think if we don't get promoted Chansiri will sack him. And with the dour way we play football he would only have himself to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 We are a much improved team on paper this season, but this is not translated into performances or league position and this is Carlos' responsibility....not good enough for me if being brutality honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I think Saturday put things into perspective. Leeds were organized and disciplined, played as a team, with Monk getting the best out of what he has (not least Wood). We are exactly the opposite. We may have better players (FF, Winnall and Rhodes were all wanted by Leeds for example), but as a collective we're poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 16 hours ago, No 2 is r nilsson said: Am I the only one here who thinks Carlos is a good coach? Last year he turned defence into attack quickly and it caught teams out. This year it's been more difficult to get behind teams when they sit deeper against us, especially without Lee and Hooper. Exceptions are games like Newcastle and Huddersfield because they've come at us. Since Jan he's got a few more options - Abdi match fit, McM (playing more than last 20), Rhodes / Winnal together with FF behind - whatever it is, everyone has a different opinion. Anyway, I trust him to get this right and I think by the play-offs we'll be flying Is this really true? We don't have the players to get behind teams as we don't have any players that would make sides think twice about defending with a high line. Why would sides be frightened of us, when there are plenty of other sides with greater attacking capability. We may be a little more difficult to beat, although the figures show otherwise. Despite spending millions, we are no better off than last season, and we've managed to wee wee off a large segment of the fan base with our negative tactics. However, I do think Carlos is a good coach, as he showed last year, and he's a great ambassador for our club. This year though, he's got it wrong, and he needs to change it quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Apart from odd attention seeker I don't think that many people would agree with sacking CC now. But have to say for me if we don't go up I would make a change. 6th place with dull football with players we have is bare minimum so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron's Sovereign Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 21 hours ago, HOOTIE AND THE bobbar TU said: True But answer me this What's the point of spending 10 million on a player then not play to his strengths The service to our forwards has been shocking all season If we are going to play this way, ultra safe, without taking risks and hoping to pinch a goal Why did Carlos choose to not invest in a top centre half The goals we have conceded against Forest, Brentford, and Leeds show why we needed to bring another top quality centre half in I've been saying all season, this will come back and bite Carlos, we're seeing it now The warning signs are all there Who? We were after some in the summer but clubs refused to sell and we were also outbid on a player who has since lost his place and doesn't look like getting it back. Imagine the meltdown on here if we'd spent that much on him to see what he was actually like? For all the alleged ITKers nobody know what our transfer targets are so to have yet another pop at Carlos for summat you know absolutely nothing about is ludicrous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 16 hours ago, stocksyuto said: Woooohoooo we are doing better than last season lets all have a party because we are doing marginally better with loads better players this season than last Still 6th with a total of 10 defeats already which is last seasons total loses and we are bound to lose more Which means draws have been converted to wins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 If we miss out on the top 6 then I think he will be given the boot anyway. Personally would like to see him keep his job even if we fall short in the play offs, though I do think a return to a more attacking, expansive style of play would be required. Think he has made a rod for his own back with this defensive set up. Whilst I don't agree with a lot of the negativity spouted towards him and the players, you do wonder whether it would be less forthcoming if we were entertaining fans as opposed to sending them to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 36 minutes ago, Big Ron's Sovereign said: Who? We were after some in the summer but clubs refused to sell and we were also outbid on a player who has since lost his place and doesn't look like getting it back. Imagine the meltdown on here if we'd spent that much on him to see what he was actually like? For all the alleged ITKers nobody know what our transfer targets are so to have yet another pop at Carlos for summat you know absolutely nothing about is ludicrous Our transfer policy has been questionable, to say the least. Millions spent on players who do not play, or shouldn't be playing, based on their form. If it's Hanley you're referring to, and he's as bad as you suggest, Carlos can hardly be credited for not signing him. Had he had his way, surely it would have been yet another expensive mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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