Ian_D Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Our right...right? might have watching via a mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Surprised no-one's tried to blame Johnson for it yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: My take on the goal: Beadle - I think he stays a bit deeper because Cundle still has a lot to do, and if he rushes out he opens up the dink over him. All in all, his positioning isn't that bad, the striker still has a lot to do, but he just doesn't seem to commit to the dive. If he fully extended his arm I think he saves that... FAIL Valentin - Nothing he can do, he's tracking the Stoke wingback and too far away to do anything else... PASS Palmer - I think he has to come short to track Bae Junho. If he doesn't, Bae would have collected the ball and Palmer would have been faced with a 2 vs 1. Having been pulled out of position by a clever dummy, Palmer then pelts full pace to get back, and almost blocks the shot (I think it goes over his outstretched leg). PASS Vaulks - Has a perfect view of Bae's run and sees Cundle running off his shoulder... and he just stops. The most culpable. BAD FAIL Ihiekwe - Has to compete for that ball I think. Beaten by a clever touch. Could he have made sure he took the man? Maybe, although the ref should have played on in any case. PASS Famewo - Left exposed with a man behind him and Cundle through on goal. He starts to do the right thing and try and close down Cundle, but is a bit indecisive. If he'd been running as hard as Palmer he would have blocked the shot. Not entirely his fault, but all a bit meh. UNDECIDED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, WimJunk said: Bad positioning by Beadle. He showed him that corner. I’m no keeper but that looks perfect positioning to me. Where do think he should be? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I think Beadle found himself in the same position as Dawson has so many times A striker unchallenged a few yards from goal with time to pick his spot Beadle had to cover all the options as the ball could have been hit anywhere Maybe, just maybe he could have sorting slightly more with the dive- but that's nitpicking to the nth degree I think with experience he'll be more anticipatory and be making his move earlier The problem with that is if the ball doesn't go in the direction of the dive... Don't blame Beadle at all 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, scram said: I think Beadle found himself in the same position as Dawson has so many times A striker unchallenged a few yards from goal with time to pick his spot Beadle had to cover all the options as the ball could have been hit anywhere Maybe, just maybe he could have sorting slightly more with the dive- but that's nitpicking to the nth degree I think with experience he'll be more anticipatory and be making his move earlier The problem with that is if the ball doesn't go in the direction of the dive... Don't blame Beadle at all Exactly. We can pick apart Beadle's every move if we like - as many did over and over with Dawson earlier in the season - but the bottom line is he was left hopelessly exposed by the players in front of him, and whatever he did, the odds always favoured the attacker. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WL_Owl_JC Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 The thing this outlined for me was compsure. How composed the Stoke player's finish was. We panic. We would have probably leathered the ball over the bar in a similar position. Röhl needs to work on our team's composure in front of goal. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddle93 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, BIG D said: I’m no keeper but that looks perfect positioning to me. Where do think he should be? A yard or so further forward stops that goal but like I said not just him at fault there was 2 or 3 others aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalowlisback Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Emerson Thome said: Surprised no-one's tried to blame Johnson for it yet.... In fairness - if the player that scored it decided to pass it instead, whoever couldn't be bothered to track the unmarked player would have also been at fault. As it is - the blame I think lies between Palmer, Valentin and Vaulks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Quite similar to our goal at their place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just yet another example of ridiculously lazy and sloppy defending this season. We always seem to have a lapse and it's going to cost us our Chamionship status. The amount of space they had for this goal, and the unmarked man in the middle is stunningly poor defending. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Blaming Beadle for that is batsh*t mad imo. You can't blame the keeper every single time we concede a goal 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 It's an awful goal to concede at any time of the season but sickening for it to happen at this stage. Experienced players shouldn't be letting that happen. No point looking at other results if you can't do your own job and that game was there to be won, there to be seen out. We didn't and we're facing a huge task now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneEightSixSeven Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Thought it was a good move and a cracking finish. It’s football, if defences were perfect there’d be no goals. Seems our defence isn’t perfect.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: Blaming Beadle for that is batsh*t mad imo. You can't blame the keeper every single time we concede a goal Exactly. If he'd have moved a step further to his left it would have opened up the shot to his right side. If he came out either a lob or a pass to the unmarked player in the middle were options for their scorer. Beadle did nothing wrong and i agree we have fans who want to blame whichever keeper it is for every goal we concede. This debacle of this goal rests entirely with the outfield players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 21 minutes ago, SiJ said: You can't blame the keeper every single time we concede a goal We've made a bloody good fist of it on here this season, though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie snerklebox Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Absolute basic errors from certain outfield players and there are people on here slagging Beadle off for conceding…. Unbelievable! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 52 minutes ago, SiJ said:. You can't blame the keeper every single time we concede a goal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerson Thome Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Exactly. We can pick apart Beadle's every move if we like - as many did over and over with Dawson earlier in the season - but the bottom line is he was left hopelessly exposed by the players in front of him, and whatever he did, the odds always favoured the attacker. I think we pick apart every player when we concede a goal - its just the nature of football. Plenty having a go at Palmer, Vaulks, etc. on here, so it is not just the keeper. So I've no problem with people getting the freeze-frames out. I agree that earlier in the season that Vasquez / Dawson were left horribly exposed at times, but I don't think that was the case yesterday. Stoke only had 2 shots on target all game and the one they scored from only had an xG of 0.03. For me, from that distance out, it just seems like Beadle was a bit slow to react and didn't fully extend his arms. I suspect he thought it was going wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelerian Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Palmer and Vaulks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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