Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 We can’t say they were 100% definitely available to us HOWEVER The managers we’ve had don’t pull up any trees, don’t prevent us from getting relegated, don’t have a high win percentage, don’t improve performances… Monk Pulis Moore Other clubs have had the Managers that we might have missed out on, that went to those clubs and stopped the decline, or improved them, or at least lasted long enough to bridge the gap from terrible to mediocre. Forest as an example. In the Championship seemed about our level. Equally as poo but able to beat us. (ignore the 6 point deduction that played a part in our relegation and focus on the managers ability to win games - both in the Championship and now) (Let’s discuss and name the managers that would’ve been a better fit for us - not just a bash Moore thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The club and ownership make it a much harder place to be successful as a manager anyway. You can't talk about individual managers and what influence they'd have whilst ignoring the golden elephants in the room. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 We know it’s all Chansiri’s fault And he’s picked the wrong managers Or maybe he’s only willing to pay out for the ones that aren’t beneficial to us Think of the managers that the fans have hopes to get linked with… and then go elsewhere. At this point even Rooney looks better than some of the dross we’ve had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swinners Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) I'd take Holloway or Warnock (never thought I'd ever say that) in a heart beat. We need someone with character and their soul connected to football. The last 3 managers definitely did not fall into this category. Edited January 2, 2022 by swinners 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I like Moore but I can’t see us ever appointing a manager who will do well here while DC owns the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: We know it’s all Chansiri’s fault And he’s picked the wrong managers Or maybe he’s only willing to pay out for the ones that aren’t beneficial to us Think of the managers that the fans have hopes to get linked with… and then go elsewhere. At this point even Rooney looks better than some of the dross we’ve had. Exactly, that's my point overall. If people suggested Rooney here you'd get laughed out of the room, you'd run a million miles. Yet, the bloke has got the smallest squad i nthe Champ, that's in an embargo, in turmoil, almost in admin and has managed to get them on 31 points from 24 games (which would see them near the top half without the deduction). Simply an exceptional return from their predicament. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Jim said: I like Moore but I can’t see us ever appointing a manager who will do well here while DC owns the club? He’s been here years now Think of the managers he’s passed on… and who probably spoke to us then said no and went somewhere like Forest. Us = Sinking lower and lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Any decent manager with a good reputation wouldn't touch Wednesday at the moment. If Moore goes (which I don't have a problem with either way) than we would end up with someone like Alex Neil at very best. He is probably not a bad manager but doubt he would do anything at Wednesday in current circumstances. 2 minutes ago, swinners said: I'd take Holloway or Warnock (never thought I'd ever say that) in a heart beat. We need someone with character and their soul connected to football. The last 3 managers definitely did not fall into this category. They are both yesterdays men. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I would genuinely give it to a **** like John Terry. Basically someone younger with a bit of attitude and a real winners mentality. Also great connections with Chelsea and their 200 man playing squad. Providing he doesn’t sign one of their duds like Izzy Brown. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, swinners said: I'd take Holloway or Warnock (never thought I'd ever say that) in a heart beat. We need someone with character and their soul connected to football. The last 3 managers definitely did not fall into this category. Jesus christ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Southie_Owl said: I would genuinely give it to a **** like John Terry. He’s gone to manage Chelsea U23s I think But maybe we could look at someone similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swinners Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Jesus christ Don't think he's available. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: He’s gone to manage Chelsea U23s I think But maybe we could look at someone similar He has, but I’d still imagine he would be tempted to be the boss of a club like ours and Chelsea would understand. But yes, or someone similar would be fine with me too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Paul Cook for last season. Paul Cook for now. The squad is his kind of squad. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Concrete Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, swinners said: I'd take Holloway or Warnock (never thought I'd ever say that) in a heart beat. We need someone with character and their soul connected to football. The last 3 managers definitely did not fall into this category. Don't you dare mention names like them on here, some of the resident's on here don't like the suggestions of managers who've been promotion winners and successful in the past, theyde rather stick with failures just because they like to play pretty ineffective football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, swinners said: Don't think he's available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jim said: I like Moore but I can’t see us ever appointing a manager who will do well here while DC owns the club? Genuinely think our best route forwards would either be promoting from within (they know what the chairman is like, and visa versa) or go with random foreigner like Watford (best case) or Reading have done (they don't know Chansiri and potentially have worked with someone just like him). Bruce, Pulis and to a degree Monk are very well connected and Chansiri is well known to managers to be an oddball who supports the manager as best possible but must frankly be bery odd to deal with on a regular basis - indeed that SWFC is an odd club to manage (our FFP penalties are a decent example of this) Whatever the case, it's wrong to say that the chairman won't support the manager - I'd argue every day that he's far too patient/tolerant - and he does support with keeping players rather than selling them and clearly paying a very decent wage to them too. In fact, money being paid to the manager, along with a underlying "it could be me that transforms this giant club" mentality that attracted Bruce and Pulis, will hopefully ensure we have a reasonable calibre of manager at least wanting the job for the foreseeable future. I really did hope and think that DM was a good shout when he was appointed, as regardless of his record Infelt he would be a decent figurehead for the club with a style of football fans can help behind (which hasn't shown its face at all yet) - regardless of his results - but I was wrong and I imagine DC might be feeling similar about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Jesus christ Not sure he’s available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coe_22 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, swinners said: Don't think he's available. Doesn’t matter, he’s no miracle worker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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