Athelwulf Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The point is that at this level, with the kind of managers we’re likely to get, it’s a game of chance. You can’t say it will work with someone else for definite, but you know for definite that it’s not working under Moore. The managers mentioned above at least are just that, managers who’ve got years of experience and have achievements to their names, rather than an ex-player who’s being tried out in the hope he’ll achieve something. Frankly, our current approach is like sh*tting in a bucket and hoping to win the lottery. It’s vain and futile. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: The point is that at this level, with the kind of managers we’re likely to get, it’s a game of chance. True. Maybe we should act quicker in future (maybe now too?) We let the decline really set in before doing anything. Other teams (I’m thinking championship ones that didn’t come down with us) made changes and didn’t end up 8th in league one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Southie_Owl said: I would genuinely give it to a **** like John Terry. 2 hours ago, Kopparberg said: He’s gone to manage Chelsea U23s I think But maybe we could look at someone similar ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Yen Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Until the fans realise we could get Jack Charlton, Howard Wilkinson, Big Ron it wouldn't make no difference until they are allowed to manage/do there job without interference but with the appropriate support/ backing. Then this great club can never possibly hope to turnit around and create something that could be amazing. It's criminal something so simple seems to be so far beyond our reach. But it won't always be that way, it will happen but seems so far away at present Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 And so it goes on, we don"t get in the top six, so the manager has to go. The fans won't tolerate anything less. That's not a way to run a club. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Holloway would've kept us up if appointed early last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: And so it goes on, we don"t get in the top six, so the manager has to go. The fans won't tolerate anything less. That's not a way to run a club. Alas at our level it is. Sure, there are quality managers who succeed in most places they go to, but they’ll not go to Hillsborough. At our level it’s a process of trial and error until it finally clicks, as it did with Jonesy. There’s nothing to indicate that Moore knows what he’s doing, or that he will ever have any success anywhere, frankly. This side is good enough to get into the play-offs IMO, so for me we’re chucking the season away. Again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Athelwulf said: Alas at our level it is. Sure, there are quality managers who succeed in most places they go to, but they’ll not go to Hillsborough. At our level it’s a process of trial and error until it finally clicks, as it did with Jonesy. There’s nothing to indicate that Moore knows what he’s doing, or that he will ever have any success anywhere, frankly. This side is good enough to get into the play-offs IMO, so for me we’re chucking the season away. Again. Who are these managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Take your pick - some of these are not realistic, some are interesting... you can add to these those in jobs already e.g. John Terry (as someone suggested above) and others like Gareth Ainsworth... Football Managers Out of Work Right Now* Aitor Karanka Alex McLeish Andrea Pirlo André Villas-Boas Billy Davies Bruno Labbadia Chris Beech Chris Coleman Chris Hughton Claude Puel Daniel Farke Derek McInnes Diego Martínez Ernesto Valverde Eusebio Di Francesco Fabio Cannavaro Frank De Boer Frank Lampard Frankie McAvoy Gary Caldwell Garry Monk Gennaro Gattuso Graham Westley Gus Poyet Heiko Herrlich Hernán Crespo Ian Holloway Jack Ross Jaap Stam Javi Gracia Jesse Marsch Jonathan Woodgate Jorge Jesus Jürgen Klinsmann Luca Gotti Lucien Favre Luiz Felipe Scolari Mark Hughes Mark van Bommel Marko Nikolić Markus Schopp Martin Allen Michael Flynn Michel Mick McCarthy Micky Adams Neil Harris Neil Lennon Neil Warnock Nigel Adkins Nigel Worthington Niko Kovač Nuno Espírito Santo Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Paco López Paul Clement Paul Cook Paul Dickov Paul Lambert Paul Peschisolido Paulo Fonseca Phil Brown Phillip Cocu Quique Setién Raphael Wicky Richard Money Roberto Di Matteo Ronald Koeman Ronnie Moore Roy Hodgson Rudi Garcia Sabri Lamouchi Sam Allardyce Sean O’Driscoll Simon Grayson Slaviša Jokanović Sol Campbell Steve Bruce Stuart Kettlewell Tony Pulis Uwe Rösler Vítor Pereira Vladimir Ivić Zinedine Zidane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Daz said: Take your pick - some of these are not realistic, some are interesting... you can add to these those in jobs already e.g. John Terry (as someone suggested above) and others like Gareth Ainsworth... Football Managers Out of Work Right Now* Aitor Karanka Alex McLeish Andrea Pirlo André Villas-Boas Billy Davies Bruno Labbadia Chris Beech Chris Coleman Chris Hughton Claude Puel Daniel Farke Derek McInnes Diego Martínez Ernesto Valverde Eusebio Di Francesco Fabio Cannavaro Frank De Boer Frank Lampard Frankie McAvoy Gary Caldwell Garry Monk Gennaro Gattuso Graham Westley Gus Poyet Heiko Herrlich Hernán Crespo Ian Holloway Jack Ross Jaap Stam Javi Gracia Jesse Marsch Jonathan Woodgate Jorge Jesus Jürgen Klinsmann Luca Gotti Lucien Favre Luiz Felipe Scolari Mark Hughes Mark van Bommel Marko Nikolić Markus Schopp Martin Allen Michael Flynn Michel Mick McCarthy Micky Adams Neil Harris Neil Lennon Neil Warnock Nigel Adkins Nigel Worthington Niko Kovač Nuno Espírito Santo Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Paco López Paul Clement Paul Cook Paul Dickov Paul Lambert Paul Peschisolido Paulo Fonseca Phil Brown Phillip Cocu Quique Setién Raphael Wicky Richard Money Roberto Di Matteo Ronald Koeman Ronnie Moore Roy Hodgson Rudi Garcia Sabri Lamouchi Sam Allardyce Sean O’Driscoll Simon Grayson Slaviša Jokanović Sol Campbell Steve Bruce Stuart Kettlewell Tony Pulis Uwe Rösler Vítor Pereira Vladimir Ivić Zinedine Zidane Chansiri would look at that list of names and still choose Garry Monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: Chansiri would look at that list of names and still choose Garry Monk Garry Monk would have kept us up in the Championship despite everything that was going off at the club behind the scenes 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Just now, @owlstalk said: Garry Monk would have kept us up in the Championship despite everything that was going off at the club behind the scenes Debatable but agree we’d be better off if Monk had remained in charge. Jos, Monk, Pulis and Moore have all took the flak that should have been directed at Chansiri 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Garry Monk would have kept us up in the Championship despite everything that was going off at the club behind the scenes Oh my God have Sheffield Wednesday Football Club fell so low that Gary Monk was really our savior but we were to thick to know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Well, the list above proves there are people out there, but it's all superfluous as we have no opening as I type this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Daz said: Well, the list above proves there are people out there, but it's all superfluous as we have no opening as I type this. That list would be cut to ribbons if you went through it realistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owler66 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 That list is to modern we could have had Brian Clough in September 74 when Leeds sacked him, no we friggin carried on with a crap manager mr Burtenshaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Indeed, as I had stated. Some interesting ones in there too, wonder what our Scottish friends think of Derek McInnes for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, owler66 said: Oh my God have Sheffield Wednesday Football Club fell so low that Gary Monk was really our savior but we were to thick to know Not the saviour or the long term answer We would have at least avoided being in this division though Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieowl87 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Jesus christ Nailed on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, aussieowl87 said: Nailed on. I set em up, you nod em in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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