Hamakua Pueo Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Under the theory that Darren Moore is so terrible that it is a no-brainer that he should be released now, despite the expense and the disruption of another mid season dismissal, then the theory has to be that there are any number of non-name assistants who would just do the obvious things that every Owlstalker knows should be done-eg, stop playing out from the back, be more direct and attacking, always play Corbeanu if fit, never play Bernahino, &etc. We have so much talent, we will start winning, right? So stop looking for names of aging retreads, because if you look for those, you will inevitably get another aging retread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 Great post @davey_wells I recall being linked with the ex Watford manager… the threads went on for ages… he never arrived. We don’t seem to think about our managers - just the same as our players these days - hope that they’ll be out of work for us to get and hope they’ll be OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
114mphAndRising Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 My biggest criticism of Moore is that he was the manager who took us down, but survived the chop, so he had time to see what the problems were last year and what needed addressing. He should have worked out that club was crying out for a set of players who would give everything, play with some pace and purpose, and give it a proper go. That’s what the fans want. They’ll accept the odd defeat if they see that. Yet despite the turnover of players nothing seems to have changed from this time last year. Other clubs are doing it on a shoestring at this level. It really shouldn’t be too much to ask to get a competitive team at this level. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 Good posts @114mphAndRising @Hamakua Pueo Do we ever get a manager that helps themselves? Anyone who comes here falls into the trap of overly cautious / boring / terrible changes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamakua Pueo Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Kopparberg said: Good posts @114mphAndRising @Hamakua Pueo Do we ever get a manager that helps themselves? Anyone who comes here falls into the trap of overly cautious / boring / terrible changes Agree, but why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hamakua Pueo said: Agree, but why? Not brave enough ? Lack of control at the club ? Player power ? or D) aren’t sure of themselves in the first place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamakua Pueo Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Kopparberg said: Not brave enough ? Lack of control at the club ? Player power ? or D) aren’t sure of themselves in the first place Of course, the obvious alternative theory is that it is the fans fault. I’d put in one of those masked emojis here but I don’t know how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Hamakua Pueo said: Of course, the obvious alternative theory is that it is the fans fault. I’d put in one of those masked emojis here but I don’t know how. It’s Chansiri’s fault (IMO and somewhat fact) To be in this position though, how many capable managers have we passed up on ?? Not even good managers - or inspired choices - just CAPABLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamakua Pueo Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Kopparberg said: It’s Chansiri’s fault (IMO and somewhat fact) To be in this position though, how many capable managers have we passed up on ?? Not even good managers - or inspired choices - just CAPABLE In all seriousness, my original point was supposed to be something like—so many, that it is impossible to count them, and almost no need to name them. So I take your point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Paul Cook for last season. Paul Cook for now. The squad is his kind of squad. Agreed. I think he’s suited to us. Always speaks highly of the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 It starts with the chairman… Chansiri knows nothing about football… …That’s why he falls for the “ bulls#it” ..Moore/jos/monk/Carlos/ pulis etc etc .. tell him …… Middlesbrough/forest/ Huddersfield chairman’s know about football and when to change and get a better manager in…..Chansiri has no idea …..that’s where it all starts from 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexter Morgan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Walter Smith Niel Warnock Mark Robins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dexter Morgan said: Walter Smith Niel Warnock Mark Robins Is this serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Kopparberg said: We know it’s all Chansiri’s fault And he’s picked the wrong managers Or maybe he’s only willing to pay out for the ones that aren’t beneficial to us Think of the managers that the fans have hopes to get linked with… and then go elsewhere. At this point even Rooney looks better than some of the dross we’ve had. Think Rooney's should be on for manager of the year. Doing amazing with Derby considering, if you look at us last season with a point deduction and them with a massive en, its night and day they put so much effort in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-owls Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dexter Morgan said: Walter Smith Niel Warnock Mark Robins Walter Smith? I can’t imagine the team talks being too lively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pughies Jockstrap Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, g-owls said: Walter Smith? I can’t imagine the team talks being too lively. Yeah. thought it was a wind up when I read it. see my post above. Mind you think he's more realistic than the other 2 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughdowd Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 It’s not who WE want ….. it’s who would want to come to us ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, Hughdowd said: It starts with the chairman… Chansiri knows nothing about football… …That’s why he falls for the “ bulls#it” ..Moore/jos/monk/Carlos/ pulis etc etc .. tell him …… Middlesbrough/forest/ Huddersfield chairman’s know about football and when to change and get a better manager in…..Chansiri has no idea …..that’s where it all starts from No points deductions or recent relegations for them either. We need a change of plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 2 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: Any decent manager with a good reputation wouldn't touch Wednesday at the moment. If Moore goes (which I don't have a problem with either way) than we would end up with someone like Alex Neil at very best. He is probably not a bad manager but doubt he would do anything at Wednesday in current circumstances. Why would Alex Neil want to come to us? Serious question. He'll be offered a Championship job soon enough. Probably once Preston stop paying him to sit at home. If Moore gets sacked, I dread to think who we'll end up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 A new manager comes in, tears it all up and starts again and the endless circle continues. Not just the players but the staff, the formation, the playing style… the reset button has been pressed so many times in the past few seasons But then I look at the recruitment and the number of loans we have, and potentially more loans coming in and it’s almost a case of having to recruit all over again next season anyway. Depressing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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