Owls Loyal Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Alex Neil. Aged 40 and already has two promotions under his belt. He would be sure to give these soft and lazy players a real hiding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellbeaten-the-owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, victorturner said: Centre back is not a problem area. We do have enough. The problem is in attack and maybe still midfield as it has been for four years. Luongo unfortunately not fit enough and like Hutch gets yellow cards The problem is Moore was supported to bring in a decent crop of players in the summer. Likes of wing, adrenien, shipdpo, etc have shown they can perform much better and / or at a higher level but most look shot of confidence, all from the baffling tactics and poor management. We are so easy to play against especially when we go behind because we constantly overplay and are not agressive or direct enough. The playing it out from back nonsense is not suited to either the players or the division. Tactics are awful, time and time again get it out wide but none of the three midfielders get in box to support the front men and try to get on end of crosses so inevitably opposition have 5 or 6 in box marking two wednesday players, nearly impossible to score like that especially with no target man 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbelow Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Until the Chairman does one we will not attract the right person. We are at best mid table league 1 with an owner who meddles, 20+ years of mis management, no significant funds to invest and a poor playing staff. It is all down to the clown who owns the club. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 hours ago, DJMortimer said: The repeated mentions of Rotherham tells a tale. Can't help thinking their being on top is a big part of the problem to some here, who let's face it are primed for a bit of wailing at the best of times. It's an important psychological principle, especially in this modern era of superficiality and fakery, to compare yourself to who you were yesterday and not to who someone else is today. Perfectly reasonable to compare the recent form of Clubs relegated alongside us,Rotherham are a case in point,because they sit top of the Division,with a team built on a shoestring,and with loan players every Year,players being sold,and injury. In the last 6 Years they have been relegated three times,and bounced straight back twice.They now sit top of L1 again,in pole position for another promotion. Barnsley too after being relegated from the Championship..... WW now sit in a play off position,after being relegated.... The notion that this League is hard to get out of,for newly relegated Championship sides ,to me is false. its only if sides dont get in the mix and stagnate does the League become difficult to get out of... People just sadly dont want to see it,and the excuses keep coming.... is it so wrong to ask why these sides with a fraction of our budget even in these times are able to challenge,whilst we are struggling? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cain Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 We’d be better off with Roger Moore than Darren Moore and he’s been dead for years 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, wellbeaten-the-owl said: The problem is Moore was supported to bring in a decent crop of players in the summer. Likes of wing, adrenien, shipdpo, etc have shown they can perform much better and / or at a higher level but most look shot of confidence, all from the baffling tactics and poor management. We are so easy to play against especially when we go behind because we constantly overplay and are not agressive or direct enough. The playing it out from back nonsense is not suited to either the players or the division. Tactics are awful, time and time again get it out wide but none of the three midfielders get in box to support the front men and try to get on end of crosses so inevitably opposition have 5 or 6 in box marking two wednesday players, nearly impossible to score like that especially with no target man This 100%..'We are so easy to play against especially when we go behind because we constantly overplay and are not agressive or direct enough. The playing it out from back nonsense is not suited to either the players or the division. When will the penny drop? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracksuit Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Hypothetically speaking.... if Darren Moore had a fully fit squad would Darren Moore know (for certain) his first 11 & formation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, parajack said: Perfectly reasonable to compare the recent form of Clubs relegated alongside us,Rotherham are a case in point,because they sit top of the Division,with a team built on a shoestring,and with loan players every Year,players being sold,and injury. In the last 6 Years they have been relegated three times,and bounced straight back twice.They now sit top of L1 again,in pole position for another promotion. Barnsley too after being relegated from the Championship..... WW now sit in a play off position,after being relegated.... The notion that this League is hard to get out of,for newly relegated Championship sides ,to me is false. its only if sides dont get in the mix and stagnate does the League become difficult to get out of... People just sadly dont want to see it,and the excuses keep coming.... is it so wrong to ask why these sides with a fraction of our budget even in these times are able to challenge,whilst we are struggling? The opposite side of the argument is the mentioned teams are used to it, know what it takes to get promoted and bounce between the Championship and League 1 and never kick on, they'll all end up back in the championship relegation battle next season if they're promoted this year Barnsley had a one off season last year and they've reverted to type this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Gob_Bluth said: The opposite side of the argument is the mentioned teams are used to it, know what it takes to get promoted and bounce between the Championship and League 1 and never kick on, they'll all end up back in the championship relegation battle next season if they're promoted this year Barnsley had a one off season last year and they've reverted to type this season. Theres always an opposite side to a debate,but TBH the one you have just trotted out is frankly 8888 poor....excuse making.... Watch now as we start to drop even a hope of a play off place,what excuses will people continue to make than?... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, cain said: We’d be better off with Roger Moore than Darren Moore and he’s been dead for years This reminds me of a story told by actor Nigel Havers when discussing Roger Moore. “Roger told me that whenever he does a bed scene he’d always say to the girl before, ‘Excuse me, I want to apologise now if I get an erection’. And then he’d pause and say, ‘And i’d also like to apologise if I don’t get an erection’.” Back on Darren Moore, he and Sheffield Wednesday should really part their ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, parajack said: Theres always an opposite side to a debate,but TBH the one you have just trotted out is frankly 8888 poor....excuse making.... Watch now as we start to drop even a hope of a play off place,what excuses will people continue to make than?... It's not poor excuse making, it's facts, those teams are yo yo teams. If you want us to be a yo - yo team, thats fine I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 We currently have a sh*t owner, a sh*t manager, and some sh*t players. Happy new year, it’s going to be another long one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 He's deluded & is taking the pizzle thinking owts going to change because it hasn't and won't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, Gob_Bluth said: It's not poor excuse making, it's facts, those teams are yo yo teams. If you want us to be a yo - yo team, thats fine I guess Its opinion presented as 'facts' nothing more..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, parajack said: Its opinion presented as 'facts' nothing more..... I quote yourself 11 minutes ago, Gob_Bluth said: In the last 6 Years they have been relegated three times,and bounced straight back twice.They now sit top of L1 again,in pole position for another promotion. Barnsley too after being relegated from the Championship..... WW now sit in a play off position,after being relegated.... What, say like yoyos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 It's time 2 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parajack Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Gob_Bluth said: I quote yourself What, say like yoyos? NO saying we should become like them,.....not inevitable at all...Changes can and should be made,to at least try to salvage the season... DM will not take us to the play offs and a bold move for new leadership now both on and off the pitch,together with the right new players might,just might give us a punchers chance, If he would take it,i would bring in Warnock for one season,with a promise of more if he gets us into the play offs,with the hope he can bring a Captain with him... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyde2005 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 The club is dead once the fans have given up . Today like sunderland total acceptance and apathy . Darren Moore its not even worth talking about he is just a terrible manager . The club is rotten 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gob_Bluth Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, parajack said: If he would take it,i would bring in Warnock for one season,with a promise of more if he gets us into the play offs,with the hope he can bring a Captain with him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 34 minutes ago, parajack said: Perfectly reasonable to compare the recent form of Clubs relegated alongside us,Rotherham are a case in point,because they sit top of the Division,with a team built on a shoestring,and with loan players every Year,players being sold,and injury. In the last 6 Years they have been relegated three times,and bounced straight back twice.They now sit top of L1 again,in pole position for another promotion. Barnsley too after being relegated from the Championship..... WW now sit in a play off position,after being relegated.... The notion that this League is hard to get out of,for newly relegated Championship sides ,to me is false. its only if sides dont get in the mix and stagnate does the League become difficult to get out of... People just sadly dont want to see it,and the excuses keep coming.... is it so wrong to ask why these sides with a fraction of our budget even in these times are able to challenge,whilst we are struggling? This league is hard to get out of when you’re crap. Same as any other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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