HIGHERSTATE Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, SiJ said: Lot of people really missing the point. What's gone before doesn't in anyway justify this. Lot of *what abouts* going on in this thread. Cynicism taking over. People are jaded. 80s was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, ANDY said: In my opinion, man city have their best chance ever of winning the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Pl need to declare that these teams will be booted if they go ahead with this. UEFA booting them is all well and good, but these competitions clearly mean nothing to these clubs now. Edited April 19, 2021 by SiJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, SiJ said: Lot of people really missing the point. What's gone before doesn't in anyway justify this. Lot of *what abouts* going on in this thread. There’s a lot who think that Sky and the premier league have made it impossible for regular clubs to be competitive. Reality is the big clubs have always had the advantage even before then. And regular clubs are still able to be competitive.. it’s just that it’s coincidence with Wednesday being sh*te which is totally our own fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, owlinexile said: Why? So they can play Spurs and Arsenal every season for the rest of time? These 20 'football' clubs only need so many players. There will be plenty to go around. And they will join it when the realise what they are losing out on. It's only a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Owl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Imagine being a City fan about to see your team potentially reach the pinnacle of football and now this. Gut wrenching for the true fans of all clubs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Maddogbob said: And they will join it when the realise what they are losing out on. It's only a matter of time. They won't be joining it. They are controlled by what these ******** term as 'legacy fans'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 The owners say the negative PR won’t bother them, but I doubt in their wildest dreams they thought it would be this bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SiJ said: Lot of people really missing the point. What's gone before doesn't in anyway justify this. Lot of *what abouts* going on in this thread. Hard to have any empathy though mate. The EPL got the ball rolling. Created the money eating monster. That's now snowballed and they can't compete. Perhaps it's just natural progression. At the end of the day, it's pure greed from those involved, but as I've said I can't have sympathy for those that started the ball rolling. Edited April 19, 2021 by Maddogbob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, FreshOwl said: The owners say the negative PR won’t bother them, but I doubt in their wildest dreams they thought it would be this bad Stock prices rise so they won't care at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, owlinexile said: They won't be joining it. They are controlled by what these ******** term as 'legacy fans'. They will in the end. Fans get greedy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 EFL Statement. The EFL stands with the Premier League, The FA, PFA, LMA, the FSA and colleagues across European professional football in condemnation of proposals which attack the foundation of open and fair competition upon which our game is built. A strong pyramid based on promotion, relegation and ultimately European qualification, is fundamental to our game’s continued success. The EFL opposes any reform that doesn’t support competition integrity or offer Clubs the prospect of one day competing at the highest end of the game. Collective reform efforts should be focused on creating conditions that foster long-term sustainability at all levels of the domestic football and remove the current, almost impossible financial pressures created as a result in the huge difference of revenues allocated to the Premier League in comparison to the Championship and Leagues One and Two. The EFL has long stated that the economics and governance of the English pyramid should be re-set and we remain committed to working with the Premier League, The FA and the game’s stakeholders to deliver that vision, so that English professional football can thrive in communities across the country for generations to come. At its heart, football is a game for supporters and the widespread rejection of these proposals must be acknowledged. EFL Clubs are an integral part of the towns and cities from which they take their name and, in many, deliver the biggest single form of communal activity in their local area. The EFL’s collective response to the pandemic in the face of significant challenges highlights just how vital they are to the life of the nation and anything that fundamentally weakens that system must be resisted. Having pioneered the world’s original League format in 1888, it is ironic that proposals which would serve to destroy the value of sporting merit were announced on the weekend of the League’s 133rdanniversary. Across EFL competitions, any club can triumph over another and fans of all Clubs regardless of size and status, must always be afforded the hope that successes on the pitch will be rewarded. The Championship is one of Europe’s most prominent divisions and the gateway to England’s top tier. The introduction of a predominantly closed European competition at the elite end kills a part of the game and the League system we established over a century ago. Similarly, the rejection of these proposals, does not represent an endorsement for UEFA’s own proposed reforms, which themselves represent a significant challenge to English football’s domestic programme. Under both proposals, the EFL has concerns about the future of the League Cup which provides vital income to EFL Clubs, is the breeding ground for stars of the future and provides the top and bottom of the English pyramid the opportunity to win the first major trophy of the season. The EFL will continue to work with colleagues across the game at home and abroad, to defend our national game, protect our members and ensure that fans continue to have a healthy, vibrant and enduring pyramid system that they can continue to be proud of. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, g-owls said: Let them go. Seriously, just f**k these clubs off into the sunset. As a fan of the game, give me a list of this lot, the history already there, the grounds and the fanbases and I'm happy. The 14 other Premier League clubs who started this season on merit Leicester West Ham Everton Leeds Aston Villa Wolves Crystal Palace Southampton Newcastle United Brighton Burnley Fulham West Bromwich Sheff Utd Former Premier League clubs in the Championship Norwich Watford Swansea Bournemouth Barnsley Reading Cardiff QPR Middlesbrough Stoke Blackburn Nottingham Forest Coventry Birmingham Huddersfield Derby Wednesday Brentford, Millwall, Bristol City and Preston can't be forgotten here. Add in Sunderland, Bolton, Charlton, Ipswich and Portsmouth and the rest of the EFL and you've got some cracking clubs involved. You certainly have, but it will be seriously undermined by the missing six. Just hope they realise they need us as much as we need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Be interesting to see what happens with the Italian Clubs Meeting this afternoon. Their course of action might set the precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: Hard to have any empathy though mate. The EPL got the ball rolling. Created the money eating monster. That's now snowballed and the can't compete. Perhaps it's just natural progression. At the end of the day, it's pure greed from those involved, but as I've said I can't have sympathy for those that started the ball rolling. its easy to be cynical and say wouldve coulda shoulda. maybe this is what it takes for people to wake up. its just a symptom of constant unregluated trade. somehow it needs to go back to the fans, no idea how tho. cap wages and tranfers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 21 minutes ago, Leeds U from sheff said: I'd be happy for Leeds to sit down for 90 mins, take kick offs and get beat 50 nil. Said this earlier in the thread, but I’d never say a bad word about Leeds again if they just punted the ball into the stands at kick off and walked straight off. Id keep the Liverpool team locked out of the ground until 5 minutes before. Change on the bus. There is no competitive merit to a single fixture involving these teams. They need to become such a farcical event that it embarrasses the league into taking serious action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 PSG. Bayern and Dortmund still have time to join Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty0wls Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 If the ESL super league goes ahead it will be excellent for English football. Let them fizz off 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlinexile Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Maddogbob said: They will in the end. Fans get greedy as well. Greedy for what? To be replaced by corporates, tourists and Arabs? Not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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