RichSheffWeds Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 23 hours ago, Lincs Owl said: I disagree. Charlton was here for 6 years and couldn't get us into the top division. As for Huddersfield, we played them 4 times that season. Won 2 drew 2. CC showed with Rio Ave, he can achieve success without money. Sacking him was one of the worst things we've done since we sacked Francis. This is seriously delusional. Charlton took over with us in the Third Division, turned us around, took us into Division two and got close to taking us into the top league. He took us to an FA Cup semi final when it was a higher competitive, prized trophy. He laid the foundations for Howard Wilkinson. He could only dream of the type of financial support provided to Carlos who left us in total turmoil. Let’s stop re-writing history - Carlos achieved nothing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullitsAA Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 02/04/2021 at 12:44, RichSheffWeds said: Not fit to lace the boots of the likes of Jack Charlton and Howard Wilkinson. Acheived nothing after having very heavy financial support. And those tactics against Huddersfield Agree that was unforgivable and tarnishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddogbob Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 02/04/2021 at 12:26, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I've been reading it for years and have only just made it to the end of the 3rd chapter: 'Meat, Fire and Rock N' Roll'. Its my basic mantra for life, Carlos nicked it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109Waddle Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Carlos didn’t win anything with us, but that first season we played some excellent entertaining football. He took Gray’s resolute spine and added attacking flair. We were a good championship team. Even in his second season we put some solid runs together to make the playoffs again, more comfortably than the season before. I don’t get the grief he receives, particularly from the same posters who stand up for Monk. WTAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Easily had us playing the most entertaining football since I’ve been watching us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 On 02/04/2021 at 15:24, @owlstalk said: Because we are still trying to tidy up the mess he left behind So he left the mess behind, that was his responsibility, yet know you absolve every manager since then of any responsibility. How does that work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Looking forward to his return... Just a few more months 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I’m glad for him. I think he was a great manager for us but maybe had the rug pulled out from under him with some stupid signings forced upon him and some essential signings not made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyto Alba Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 A good manager would have taken us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tyto Alba said: A good manager would have taken us up. So he is not a good manager? Just luck he has done in his last two jobs then? 6th and getting to the final was more than most expected from the first season. 4th was a good finish second season, we blew it against Huddersfield and he got that wrong tactically for me but that doesn't make him a bad manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Concrete Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 22 hours ago, bobness said: "ONLY HAD ONE COAT!?" BLASPHEMER!! Bottom photo, why does it look like Pudil is saying to Wallace "Hey Ross is that your wife speaking to that bird you were knocking off a few month back?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basement Jack Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 9 hours ago, RichSheffWeds said: This is seriously delusional. Charlton took over with us in the Third Division, turned us around, took us into Division two and got close to taking us into the top league. He took us to an FA Cup semi final when it was a higher competitive, prized trophy. He laid the foundations for Howard Wilkinson. He could only dream of the type of financial support provided to Carlos who left us in total turmoil. Let’s stop re-writing history - Carlos achieved nothing. It was a different world back then He gives an interview with Jim Rosenthal one of the most honest interviews you will ever see and he blames himself for not getting us promoted In another interview (it may even be the same one) he says he didn't add to the team because he was too concerned about club finances (or words to that effect) OK it’s a different world now but Jack ran the club from top to bottom Imagine having a manager that cared about the club and it’s future that much he put them before himself and his own success And that my friends is why Jack Charlton is the greatest manager Sheffield Wednesday have had in my lifetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoor Owl Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Tyto Alba said: A good manager would have taken us up. Because of how easy it is to do that, and how easy it is to get into the playoffs every year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indoor Owl Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said: Please make this club wrecker go away Blaming Carlos for the state of the club is a little bit like blaming the barista who quit your local Starbucks two years ago because the Starbucks stock price is down and the financials are a mess this quarter. Carlos is reinventing football in the Primeira Liga and going to the CL. We're still a mess, closing in on a half dozen managers later. It's the executive suite that's the issue. Not the guy that was on the touchline getting us into the playoffs. Edited April 4, 2021 by Indoor Owl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 55 minutes ago, Indoor Owl said: Blaming Carlos for the state of the club is a little bit like blaming the barista who quit your local Starbucks two years ago because the Starbucks stock price is down and the financials are a mess this quarter. Carlos is reinventing football in the Primeira Liga and going to the CL. We're still a mess, closing in on a half dozen managers later. It's the executive suite that's the issue. Not the guy that was on the touchline getting us into the playoffs. Stick to ice hockey and sipping lappy crappy chinos The bloke wrecked what team we had with his insane methods. Carlos has a history of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 Best manager since we left the Prem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxing_day Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 I’m sure he’s doing a decent job, but reinventing football? Hes taken a side currently into 4th who finished 3rd last season. Hardly reinventing the wheel is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 (edited) 16 hours ago, 109Waddle said: Carlos didn’t win anything with us, but that first season we played some excellent entertaining football. He took Gray’s resolute spine and added attacking flair. We were a good championship team. Even in his second season we put some solid runs together to make the playoffs again, more comfortably than the season before. I don’t get the grief he receives, particularly from the same posters who stand up for Monk. WTAF. Well the first response literally says he’s too foreign (apparently racism is now okay on here) and Monk is English, so there you go Edited April 4, 2021 by T Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest T Hardy Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Indoor Owl said: Because of how easy it is to do that, and how easy it is to get into the playoffs every year? When we go another 10 years not even close to the playoffs, those who insult CC still now might realise that those years were memories we should be fond of, because we don’t have anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Let it go he failed because he sabotaged everything with his philosophy. He manages a season of so then things fall apart. He caused a huge injury list and failure to understand playing negative football will work. A top draw version of Carlos philosophy is Marino he is now starting to fail and never manages more than a couple of years, that's with top top players..... Carlos COULD be a top manager but his own philosophy always rooms him..... If he played like we did in his first season yes but his actual style is stop the opposition until last 20mins then attack.... It fails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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