quinnssweetshop Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 We have been the dumping ground for all the sheite in certain " advisors " portfolios because we have an utter mug as " chairman " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guesswhosback Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Sasso & Lopez 2 players we should of kept. Lopez should of played in the play off final. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, gurujuan said: That is shocking, only Joao has proven to be a shrewd signing. Others entertained us for a while, but quickly disappeared from the scene Latterly, Iorfa seems to be a decent signing, for I believe, about £450,000 Some massive failures on there though Wasn't the fee quoted for Iorfa £250000 at the time ? The worry is he won't play again this season and then sits out the last year of his contract and walks for free. The injury couldn't have come at a worse time as potential buyers may want to see if he is back to his best before offering a fee and the nearer to the end of his contract the lower the value. Could well be we lose millions yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Guesswhosback said: Sasso & Lopez 2 players we should of kept. Lopez should of played in the play off final. Not sure we should have kept, like most of the others we signed, neither went on to do anything noteworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Vernacio should have been snapped up rather than Van Disaster. Far better defender and much better value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 minute ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Wasn't the fee quoted for Iorfa £250000 at the time ? The worry is he won't play again this season and then sits out the last year of his contract and walks for free. The injury couldn't have come at a worse time as potential buyers may want to see if he is back to his best before offering a fee and the nearer to the end of his contract the lower the value. Could well be we lose millions yet again. You might be right re the fee, I just took it from a Wolves site. Yes unfortunate timing, and he would have been useful to us this season in playing terms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, gurujuan said: You might be right re the fee, I just took it from a Wolves site. Yes unfortunate timing, and he would have been useful to us this season in playing terms Without a doubt. We have missed his pace and his ability to chip in with the odd goal. Was are most marketable player but think that boat may have sailed now with the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, quinnssweetshop said: It's been a hell of a " one off " consultation He came with the club remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, torryowl said: It isnt we got fees for thorniley & grant Oooh massive amounts. Thorniley was undisclosed so peanuts. Grant the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Wages Hahaha. Right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, ZicoSterland2 said: Vernacio should have been snapped up rather than Van Disaster. Far better defender and much better value. Venancio was a ready-made solution sitting in CC’s second string as was Joao due to his management “philosophy.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 We’re just not very good at buying and selling are we ? But hey let’s keep this paxio clown and all these other hangers on Cos were really doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 14 hours ago, S36 OWL said: 4 players sold for a fee in 5 years. No wonder we are screwed Yep. Brentford are looking for 25 to 30 mill for Toney. They will get it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 hours ago, Whitechapel Owl said: I'm amazed how small that list of players is, is that really them all? Just shows how little we've brought in, in recent years. That's just the ones with fees. There are additional free transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 hours ago, i used to be sc_owl said: The fees are bad but the wages... jeez.... dread to think exactly how much has been wasted there. Also, don’t forget wages paid for loan players who barely featured like Buckley Add in mcgeedy and the two lads signed for a year urby and the African guy that never played too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGLE75 Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Jesus its depressing reading. I wonder how many teams in the champ have such a little amount from selling on? Only one is Joao. At the time it felt like good business but I imagine his value has at least doubled £15 million?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 15 hours ago, lanzaroteowl said: How much have we paid in wages during this time? I bet it dwarfs the transfer fees. We only have until the 17/18 accounts to be totally accurate. My observations. All in hindsight, obviously. a) DC wasn't afraid to put his money where his mouth was. b) CC should have gone after 16/17 season ended. c) 17/18 seasons wage bill of £42.4m and 168% of our income was ridiculous and set the tone for our demise with FFP, without fire sales it was always going to end in disaster. d) The quality of players available in 17/18 season was top drawer for the Championship, and the whole lot of them should be totally ashamed of themselves and their 15th placed finish. e) The gravy train hasn't quite pulled into the station yet, as we'll see when 18/19 & 19/20 accounts are finally published. But, we are at least on the right tracks now financially. f) Amazing that in those 10 seasons, with combined wages of £160m, we achieved a better league position with an £8.2m wage bill than with a £42.4m one. Part of me actually feels for DC a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 To be brutally honest Sheffield Wednesday must be one of the worst clubs across the league structure for "player in player out profitability" over many many years .... We've been like this way before Chansiri even had hair on his knåckers!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11/12 was Lg 1, not 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mcguigan said: We only have until the 17/18 accounts to be totally accurate. My observations. All in hindsight, obviously. a) DC wasn't afraid to put his money where his mouth was. b) CC should have gone after 16/17 season ended. c) 17/18 seasons wage bill of £42.4m and 168% of our income was ridiculous and set the tone for our demise with FFP, without fire sales it was always going to end in disaster. d) The quality of players available in 17/18 season was top drawer for the Championship, and the whole lot of them should be totally ashamed of themselves and their 15th placed finish. e) The gravy train hasn't quite pulled into the station yet, as we'll see when 18/19 & 19/20 accounts are finally published. But, we are at least on the right tracks now financially. f) Amazing that in those 10 seasons, with combined wages of £160m, we achieved a better league position with an £8.2m wage bill than with a £42.4m one. Part of me actually feels for DC a bit. Vast majority had lengthy spells on the sidelines injured. Whether that was down to overplaying them or bad luck I’m not sure - probably a mixture of both. That season we were missing Westwood, Lees, Hutchinson, Lee, Bannan, Hooper, Forestieri, Fletcher Abdi, Winnall, Hunt for long periods. Plus we made two shocking managerial decisions. We should have got rid of Carlos after the Hudds defeat. Expecting the same manager to go again with the same group of players after two near misses was never going to work. And then we for some reason appointed Jos Luhukay which was absolutely nonsensical at the time. Both decisions cost us dearly. And to be honest, the squad needed a bit of a refresh in the summer of 2017. I believe we turned down a bid for FF from Fulham before he got injured. I’m sure we could have attracted decent bids for a few others too. Every team has there cycle and after two failed Play Off campaigns, the squad needed a bit of a restructure in order to compete again. Instead we thought we could give it another go with the same group and same manager. Just bad club management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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