bradowl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I don't think its boring but what I have noticed lately is that the standard as dropped, even Premier league isn't what it was a few years ago, apart from City and Liverpool rest are average to poor, proof is in that most clubs going down even with parachute money struggle in Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, MAL said: No pal, they still come under the second sentence. To put it in a nutshell, it is not football. Amongst other things, i really don't want to watch a "supposed" set of grown men, roll around on the floor because someone has touched them. I have more fun at the dentist. Ah, yes there I agree. Hate divers and players who go down like they’ve been tazered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Defending is the new attacking in Rugby Union....apparently....so i'm told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, bradowl said: I don't think its boring but what I have noticed lately is that the standard as dropped, even Premier league isn't what it was a few years ago, apart from City and Liverpool rest are average to poor, proof is in that most clubs going down even with parachute money struggle in Championship. All 4 finalists in the European competitions says its never been better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, torres said: All 4 finalists in the European competitions says its never been better 3 of them wouldn't be in it in old European Cup format. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, bradowl said: 3 of them wouldn't be in it in old European Cup format. Bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bradowl said: 3 of them wouldn't be in it in old European Cup format. The 4 were in two competitions in case it passed you by, but apart from that really good argument Edited November 3, 2019 by torres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Worksop Wednesday said: lots of things make wander about the integrity of the game - and lets not even start talking about VAR Preston just gone 1-0 up at Charlton and now top the league With their 7th penalty of the season!!! 7, Yes 7 pens in 15 matches ! How does one team get so many decisions their way ?! Referees??? Their players keep getting fouled in the box. It’s quite simple really. Odubajo’s abomination of a performance at Deepdale gave them 2 penalties. So we know ourselves that at least those 2 out of those 7 penalties were legitimate. Which of the other 5 do you think were unfairly given? 2 hours ago, Worksop Wednesday said: poo refs or has someone at Sky or EFL or whatever had a word with Refs association or whatever about how romantic it would be to see 'ol' North End in Prem Tell me its not bent im gonna see what odds they are for a pen in next match ! Do you honestly believe that? Personally, I’ve got no time for daft baseless conspiracy theories. Edited November 3, 2019 by Westfield Owl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 That's why no one can be àrsed with the Fa Cup n League Cup anymore There's no European qualification incentive to win them ... It's all geared up for the big 4 in the Premier ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: That's why no one can be àrsed with the Fa Cup n League Cup anymore There's no European qualification incentive to win them ... It's all geared up for the big 4 in the Premier ... You get in Europe if you win those you do know?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, torres said: You get in Europe if you win those you do know?? 8th qualifying round of Europa league Start the week after the end of the season to qualify .. Thursday night matches Sunday dinner time kick offs Like Charlton away every week .... Reyt incentive ....... As posted previous it's a big 4 biased system. Unless you are a champions league stage failure in the likes of Celtic with the safety net of going into knockout stages of Europa Cup It's a lot of risk with little reward .... Edited November 3, 2019 by OWLERTON GHOST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: 8th qualifying round of Europa league Start the week after the end of the season to qualify .. Thursday night matches Sunday dinner time kick offs Like Charlton away every week .... Reyt incentive ....... As posted previous it's a big 4 biased system .. you said no European incentive - so that’s wrong If you win it you now get into the champions league - so much more incentive than before If this is going to turn into old clogging football was better at least factually back it up otherwise it’s just old people grumbling how things were better in the good old days (no offence meant to you and blenkinsop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, S36 OWL said: This has been creeping in for a while. I lay the blame with trigger happy chairman who want the golden ticket to the premier at all costs as soon as possible meaning the managers know a couple of iffy results could result in their P45. It leads to managers being ultra defensive trying to avoid defeat instead of trying to win the game first and foremost. I blame sky tv with the obscene amount of money they are pumping into football which us unsustainable and has ruined the game, that and Jordan Rhodes Edited November 3, 2019 by Blue and white 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, torres said: you said no European incentive - so that’s wrong If you win it you now get into the champions league - so much more incentive than before If this is going to turn into old clogging football was better at least factually back it up otherwise it’s just old people grumbling how things were better in the good old days (no offence meant to you and blenkinsop) That's Mrs Blenkinsop to you young man... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, torres said: you said no European incentive - so that’s wrong If you win it you now get into the champions league - so much more incentive than before If this is going to turn into old clogging football was better at least factually back it up otherwise it’s just old people grumbling how things were better in the good old days (no offence meant to you and blenkinsop) I've answered your post with the edit ... I stick with my opinion there is no incentive . Theres no money in the Europa League Unless you win it .. Then you get a wedge and a pre qualifying slot in the champions league. ITS BIG 4 BIASED ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worksop Wednesday Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 44 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said: Their players keep getting fouled in the box. It’s quite simple really. Odubajo’s abomination of a performance at Deepdale gave them 2 penalties. So we know ourselves that at least those 2 out of those 7 penalties were legitimate. Which of the other 5 do you think were unfairly given? Do you honestly believe that? Personally, I’ve got no time for daft baseless conspiracy theories. you're right mate I ain't got all the evidence but you're getting a bit too deep, just sayin it wee wees me off to point that as a fan for 50 years I don't really give a fizz no more, and don't tell me you've never been pissed off by some of the decisions we've seen by refs at hillsbro?! maybe revisit the thread title and theme ? see ya x 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 And just think. Get promoted and you get VAR. the worst thing to happen in football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Growl67 said: I’ve thought this for a while now it’s losing its soul and the higher up the leagues you go the worse it seems to be, although I guess our noisy neighbours would disagree right now. Unfortunately, and it makes me sick to say this, our noisy neighbours are brave and positive (extremely) well-coached, stick to basics and pass forward with purpose whenever possible. They also have a well balanced and hungry squad. No wonder they’re enjoying themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradowl Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, poite said: And just think. Get promoted and you get VAR. the worst thing to happen in football Score a goal and instead of celebrating you're looking for ref to see if he's got a finger in his ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, bradowl said: Score a goal and instead of celebrating you're looking for ref to see if he's got a finger in his ear. how many celebrated when fletcher scored despite the flag being up against Wigan??? Most being the brain boxes that had the same argument I bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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