Holmowl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I love proper stats, ie results, points and goals, but I think most other stats are unimportant and unhelpful. However, for once from me, something does stand out from Monk’s short reign, which suggests that we are a much tighter and better organised team under Monk. Look at the number of shots our opponents have had. Wigan 5 (we had 8) Hull 8 (v 12) Boro 9 (v 12) Fulham 9 (v 12) Hudders 9 (v 13) Compare that to the average shots by Championship sides this weekend - 13 So our average shots conceded has been 8. Our average shots taken has been 12. And this is all the more impressive given that we have had 3 aways and 2 homes. We have been no better than average in an attacking creative sense, and tight as a camel’s bum defensively, and I’m referring to all ten outfield players, rather than simply the back 4. Most good managers focus on tightening up a side defensively before moving onto attacking prowess. This certainly does seem to be the case so far with our new manager. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Its better to be more direct and more positive than fanny around the back with it for ages then do nothing. A lot of the past few years has been dire in terms of attacking. We've been slow, ponderous,negative and basically were drilled to let the opposition dictate tempo whilst we sat back (Carlos era tactics). Unfortunately if we did win the ball back we didn't have the pace to counter anyome hence why we only scored 1 counter attack goal last season, the least in the league. This season we are playing more directly. Midfielders aim to get it forward quicker and have much better full back and wing options. I've personally been crying out for this since the Play off final defeat. About bloody time basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Good stats this time. Defensively we are doing well but like you say we need to improve our creative play and to cash in on the chances made. Unless FF comes back firing we definitely need to look at signing another striker come January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CF_Owl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 If your'e interested in those stats you should check out Experimental361 (https://experimental361.com/). Ben Mayhew does some amazing stuff on there and gives a great insight in to how we're playing. This chart shows we are very close to becoming a good all round team, just need to get the attack firing a little more. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Most pleasing aspect is the chance creation element, weve not been particularly fluent in this regard in recent seasons. Tightening up at the back perhaps owes a lot to the team shape monk has embedded. Still work in progress but we look much tighter knit as a unit and players know who should be where. Still work to do on what to do with the ball when we have it and how to take a throw in, but all in good time. The international break has come at a good time to refresh players and work on the training ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I like this one. It answers a question of the solidity of our defence perhaps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: I love proper stats, ie results, points and goals, but I think most other stats are unimportant and unhelpful. However, for once from me, something does stand out from Monk’s short reign, which suggests that we are a much tighter and better organised team under Monk. Look at the number of shots our opponents have had. Wigan 5 (we had 8) Hull 8 (v 12) Boro 9 (v 12) Fulham 9 (v 12) Hudders 9 (v 13) Compare that to the average shots by Championship sides this weekend - 13 So our average shots conceded has been 8. Our average shots taken has been 12. And this is all the more impressive given that we have had 3 aways and 2 homes. We have been no better than average in an attacking creative sense, and tight as a camel’s bum defensively, and I’m referring to all ten outfield players, rather than simply the back 4. Most good managers focus on tightening up a side defensively before moving onto attacking prowess. This certainly does seem to be the case so far with our new manager. I watched several of our extended highlights today back to back and what is noticable is that we look like the best side in all of them. Watching the whole game it seems different, like we are 2nd best as we are not dominating but clearly we are valuing being organised over possession. It's ok while we are doing well ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Peacenocchio said: I watched several of our extended highlights today back to back and what is noticable is that we look like the best side in all of them. Watching the whole game it seems different, like we are 2nd best as we are not dominating but clearly we are valuing being organised over possession. It's ok while we are doing well ...... I love the idea of binge-watching our season so far. Try The Sopranos or Blackadder. Yes when you watch our highlights we do seem to dominate the key areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, Holmowl said: I love the idea of binge-watching our season so far. Try The Sopranos or Blackadder. Yes when you watch our highlights we do seem to dominate the key areas. Looking at all these stats and with what you say above this is a reason why we have good reason to believe we can be challenging for the playoffs this season. We seem to have the right blend at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birstall Owl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 2 hours ago, CF_Owl said: If your'e interested in those stats you should check out Experimental361 (https://experimental361.com/). Ben Mayhew does some amazing stuff on there and gives a great insight in to how we're playing. This chart shows we are very close to becoming a good all round team, just need to get the attack firing a little more. I agree Ben Mayhew does some good stuff, if you look at our stats he did under Jos we didn't create many chances which meant we were more reliant on the defence or Reach worldies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan™ Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 How tight is a camel's bum? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetherivelinowl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Presumably these graphics are for the whole season so far and not just since Monk arrived. I think we'd find they look even better since Monk started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 6 hours ago, LittleG said: Good stats this time. Defensively we are doing well but like you say we need to improve our creative play and to cash in on the chances made. Unless FF comes back firing we definitely need to look at signing another striker come January. I don’t understand this creativity comment that people keep saying...if I’m right we’ve only scored 4/5 less than the highest scoring team in the league (I could be wrong?) and to be honest winnall and fletcher alone could have closed that gap had they taken chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Dan™ said: How tight is a camel's bum? Depends. Nice day or sandstorm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 7 hours ago, CF_Owl said: If your'e interested in those stats you should check out Experimental361 (https://experimental361.com/). Ben Mayhew does some amazing stuff on there and gives a great insight in to how we're playing. This chart shows we are very close to becoming a good all round team, just need to get the attack firing a little more. Wow, look at Leeds, Champions of Europe Gary will not rest until we've dismantled them, like we did Boro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myHero Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Peacenocchio said: I watched several of our extended highlights today back to back and what is noticable is that we look like the best side in all of them. Watching the whole game it seems different, like we are 2nd best as we are not dominating but clearly we are valuing being organised over possession. It's ok while we are doing well ...... That's why I like iFollow and the full match replay available 24 hours after the game for free as part of the annual audio subscription. Even the extended highlights are just that, edited highlights which are not impartial. The club will want to show our efforts in a positive light. Even Jos had highlights during a game. What I liked about the Wigan game the most was the workrate throughout the game. Wigan didn't roll over and we didn't have it all our own way, but generally we had them contained and we still looked a threat going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Dan™ said: How tight is a camel's bum? As tight as Rod Stewart's wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Looks good at first glance ( a bit like Denise Van Outen ) but stats probably skewed as we've not really played any of the so called 'top' team yet.. Will be interesting to see how this looks when we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 18 hours ago, Holmowl said: I love the idea of binge-watching our season so far. Try The Sopranos or Blackadder. Yes when you watch our highlights we do seem to dominate the key areas. Weirdly I was on a treadmill in Japan which had You Tube.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Peacenocchio said: Weirdly I was on a treadmill in Japan which had You Tube.... Who hasn’t been on a treadmill in Japan binge-watching Owls match highlights? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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