SallyCinnamon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, SiJ said: Yep, defo going for Stendel. Just be worth it to see Sally have a meltdown (again). I think it would be the best appointment and i’d have no problem with it. I’m not the one throwing my toys out the pram because Steve Bruce has left us. Like you say, it’s football. Also you’re naive to think what Bruce has done is not standard practice in football. Carlos had his agent talking to Swansea whilst with us. Every football manager does it. Wrong yes, but Bruce certainly isn’t unique in doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddling Owl Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I have no problem with it, it’s football. I’m just saying people were quick to call Newcastle and Bruce everything under the sun for this move. But if we employed Stendel, what makes us any different? This is why I don’t get all the abuse for Bruce. This happens all the time in football. We are just not used to it because we are not a selling club. I think the abuse for Bruce (aboot this hoose) has been as a result of his conduct. The pretence that this has ‘come out of the blue’ and he ‘will be leaving it to the clubs’ before doing the exact opposite is what has annoyed people, totally legitimately imo. As for abuse of Newcastle, I again think that’s specific to the horrible asset stripper Mike Ashley, rather than the club, as well as the fact Bruce has clearly been tapped up. If we make an official approach for an employed manager and conduct ourselves properly, I don’t have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: Also you’re naive to think what Bruce has done is not standard practice in football. Carlos had his agent talking to Swansea whilst with us. Every football manager does it. Wrong yes, but Bruce certainly isn’t unique in doing it. I'm fully aware of how football works. Stop trying to patronise people. Just because it happens, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Two completely different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, SiJ said: I'm fully aware of how football works. Stop trying to patronise people. Just because it happens, doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Two completely different things. SiJ telling people not to be patronising. Oh the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 21 hours ago, Philb125 said: Only two on the list you’ve captured that I’d be keen on. That’s a sorry state of affairs. TWO!, who's the other one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: I have no problem with it, it’s football. I’m just saying people were quick to call Newcastle and Bruce everything under the sun for this move. But if we employed Stendel, what makes us any different? This is why I don’t get all the abuse for Bruce. This happens all the time in football. We are just not used to it because we are not a selling club. It would be very very different if we approached the club, ascertained the contractual requirement for compensation, agreed to pay it, were granted permission to speak to the manager and agreed the terms of his new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, Sonny said: It would be very very different if we approached the club, ascertained the contractual requirement for compensation, agreed to pay it, were granted permission to speak to the manager and agreed the terms of his new contract. Newcastle did approach us. Chansiri gave Bruce permission to speak to Newcastle. According to Nixon have agreed to pay the compensation (most clubs haggle over compensation for managers). Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: Newcastle did approach us. Chansiri gave Bruce permission to speak to Newcastle. According to Nixon have agreed to pay the compensation (most clubs haggle over compensation for managers). Am I missing something here? The part where Bruce and his staff resigned is quite important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I have read it that we did not agree compo until after Bruce resigned and brought it all to a head. For some reason this seems to have put a bit of urgency into Ashley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobbo Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, Jakes Grandad said: No thank you, don't think he did a fantastic job at Birmingham, just ok. Crap at Derby and Stoke Not quite sure how you can say he just did an ok job at Brum, he performed miracles to get that side anywhere near the top half of the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, Ever the pessimist said: I have read it that we did not agree compo until after Bruce resigned and brought it all to a head. For some reason this seems to have put a bit of urgency into Ashley. Same. Think it is also pretty much accepted that Newcastle and Bruce have been actively courting each other a few weeks prior to any official approach. And yes, Sally, I'm aware this sort of thing happens in Football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: The part where Bruce and his staff resigned is quite important. Again have we had official confirmation of that? Do you know the ins and outs of the negotiations, the contracts and clauses of Bruce and his backroom staff? The figure has changed from 1m to 2m to 4m in the past week! So until we hear both the club and Bruce’s side of the story, we won’t know exactly what has gone of. It is all just still speculation. Edited July 16, 2019 by SallyCinnamon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: Again have we had official confirmation of that? Do you know the ins and outs of the negotiations, the contracts and clauses of Bruce and his backroom staff? The figure has changed from 1m to 2m to 4m in the past week. So until we hear both the club and Bruce’s side of the story, we won’t know exactly what has gone of. It is all just still speculation. Tbf, you didn't know any of the ins and outs a few days ago and yet were blaming Chansiri for the entire situation... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindygrOWLer Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, SiJ said: The part where Bruce and his staff resigned is quite important. And the part that he clearly lied about his intentions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, SiJ said: Tbf, you didn't know any of the ins and outs a few days ago and yet were blaming Chansiri for the entire situation... Jumped the gun on that one I’ll admit, annoyed over the situation. Held my hands up. Still think there is more to this than Bruce being a snake. If Bruce resigning did push through the move. I think that is the best thing he could have done. Clear he didn’t want to be here and if the 4m compo figure is correct, that’s a pretty good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Windygrowler said: And the part that he clearly lied about his intentions..... Only came to light 2 to 3 days ago... Bit like Carlos magically walking into the Swansea job a day or two after leaving us. Pretty obvious what's been going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: Jumped the gun on that one I’ll admit, annoyed over the situation. Held my hands up. Still think there is more to this than Bruce being a snake. If Bruce resigning did push through the move. I think that is the best thing he could have done. Clear he didn’t want to be here and if the 4m compo figure is correct, that’s a pretty good deal. Yes, the fact it is seemingly resolved is a good thing. It has already derailed our pre season enough, without it developing into a protracted saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatzooma Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Could ask Big Mick if he fancies a go at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 First time I can remember Warnock not being mentioned by anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chansiri is king Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, fatzooma said: Could ask Big Mick if he fancies a go at it? Latest odds still have CH as favourite??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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