Minton Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leaping Lannys Perm said: 13 of the Premier League teams have sold their grounds? Really? If that is the case then I'm obviously mistaken. Maybe some sort of confirmation bias in that you only know about the ones that go wrong. https://www.propertyweek.com/news-analysis/who-owns-premier-league-stadiums/5090883.article Arsenal, Bournemouth, Brighton, Burnley, Chelsea, Hudders, Leicester, Liverpool, Man City, Newcastle, Southampton, Swansea, Spurs and West Ham all don't own their stadia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: I know the storybehind the Ricoh. point being they sold highfield road you numpty which led to renting from a third party who then fizzed them over. We could end up in the same position if DC decides to sell the now separate ground to a third party...... just st one source this time for you titbeak https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-citys-disastrous-mistake-sale-11993349 btw if that article doesn’t worry the fans trying to tell me I’m being stupid I’m not sure what will...... If you read the article instead of just screaming in blind panic at the headlines, it says that "Looking back, I think we should have got to the point where we had the money before we sold Highfield Road." So what they are saying is that it was a good idea, just poorly executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: I know the storybehind the Ricoh. point being they sold highfield road you numpty which led to renting from a third party who then fizzed them over. We could end up in the same position if DC decides to sell the now separate ground to a third party...... just st one source this time for you titbeak https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-citys-disastrous-mistake-sale-11993349 btw if that article doesn’t worry the fans trying to tell me I’m being stupid I’m not sure what will...... He could have sold it straight to a third party anyway so selling it to himself hasn’t altered anything in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Mort AMB Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 50 minutes ago, kirksandallowl said: This company was restored to the register due to an insurance claim by a former employee or something like that, it is not the company that currently operates the football club. It dates back to the removal of asbestos in the 60s if it 's the one i read about a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Uncle Mort AMB said: It dates back to the removal of asbestos in the 60s if it 's the one i read about a few years ago. Yeah that’s the one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Bulgaria said: Obviously not, but I would hazard a guess that every single owner of a premiership club is in it for the dosh I seriously doubt it. Most Premiership clubs lose money. Some may make a profit in one year but not many make money over say a 5 year period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 2roland2 said: Ok........ and then the lot would have gone, fans protests efl involved. He does this now passes it off as needing to adhere to adhere to ffp, then later if he does decide to do it it doesn’t matter what the fizz we do or think or the efl or fa. Because it is t part of the club...... deary me our fans just sleep walk i to trouble every time.... I seem to remember a club not too far up the road selling the ground to a third party, the efl did fizz all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 2roland2 said: Ok let me simplify this to ram home my point. Lets say hypothetically speaking Chansiri wants to sell the ground now to get around FFP for Arguments sake £40 mill. But it’s too someon elike Bates or McCabe, what would you say or do? I wouldn’t be happy with that but what could I do about it? Stand outside the main entrance hurling abuse, would that stop him? Is there anyway to stop him legally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, kirksandallowl said: I wouldn’t be happy with that but what could I do about it? Stand outside the main entrance hurling abuse, would that stop him? Is there anyway to stop him legally? Throw shoes at them all that'll sort it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, prowl said: Any sensible purchaser would want to buy the ground at the same time they buy the club or at least a cast iron lease on set terms for many years. Of course - but that's the point; it complicates the deal for them and is likely to make it much less attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 So its the best financial plan envisaged or its the worse idea since Mrs Hitler said to Mr Hitler. "Do you fancy an early night"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 2roland2 said: As a club, our fans and staff, and the efl and fa could still get involved and make it very very hard, other fans would probably get behind it too, it makes it very hard for him to do that. if and it’s a big if, this happens, it matters not one jot what anyone says or does, the pressure is irrelevant. Like ke I said earlier I’m hopin g if this happens it’s written in we must buy it back. I doubt it will be though just hope I’m wrong. The fans & staff probably would and still could if he decided to sell it on again after selling it to himself but ultimately it wouldn’t stop him if he’d made up his mind. As I said above the efl & fa would do fizz all, there is no president to suggest they get involved in this type of dispute. Just look at the nothing statements they’ve made on the Bolton debacle. I doubt he he would insert a clause that says the football club are the only ones who can buy it back it is too restrictive, but he may be willing to have a clause giving the club 1st refusal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: Ok let me simplify this to ram home my point. Lets say hypothetically speaking Chansiri wants to sell the ground now to get around FFP for Arguments sake £40 mill. But it’s too someon elike Bates or McCabe, what would you say or do? Seeing as we would have a rent already agreed, they would be forced to honour it until the previous lease agreement ended. If that is a 99 year lease for example, then they can't do a thing other than increase the rent by a 'reasonable amount' every few years. There are laws in place to stop someone selling a property and then extortionately increasing the rent to force out a business. Unless the company breaches the contract by doing something like not paying the rent (a la Coventry) of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: As a club, our fans and staff, and the efl and fa could still get involved and make it very very hard, other fans would probably get behind it too, it makes it very hard for him to do that. if and it’s a big if, this happens, it matters not one jot what anyone says or does, the pressure is irrelevant. Like ke I said earlier I’m hopin g if this happens it’s written in we must buy it back. I doubt it will be though just hope I’m wrong. He’s probably sold it to himself under a different name. I wouldn’t worry about it yet. We don’t know the full details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirksandallowl Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, helmut_rooster said: Throw shoes at them all that'll sort it I’ll line them up you knock em down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just now, 2roland2 said: And you think he’s going to organise a lease agreement like that? And leave it closed to potential future buyers? Your a a lot more trusting of a man you don’t know much about than I am You clearly have zero idea as to how a lease agreement works. There must be a written agreement in place for *any* lease or rental, even if it is being 'given away'. That's what a peppercorn rent is, a nominal fee (usually £1) that makes it legally binding. To have no lease agreement in place would not only be monumentally ridiculous, it would also be illegal. So. Want any more holes poking in your delusional ramblings? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: Ofc there will be a lease in place you empty head but not a 99 year one, I guarantee it will be very short and not hamstringing his future options to sell it on be it back to us or a third party.......... you really are a bit simple Ok, if you insist I poke more holes... What do you base your "guarantee" on? Because I base my assumption of a 99 year lease on the agreement West Ham have with the London Stadium. Which is 99 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36043808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 So, um...have we sold our ground, then? Don't really fancy reading back through 31 pages to find an answer if the previous one is anything to go by! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, elvin parsnip said: I’ve also heard from a very reliable source he has sold the ground to Steve Bruce who is going turn the pitch into a massive cabbage patch in the close season- we will all get a cabbage put on our seats when we play Villa (providing they don’t go up ) to hurl at their fans/ players - if Villa do go up he’s just going to keep the cabbages or sell them to Sainsbury’s up the road He does look a little like a Cabbage Patch Doll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 31 pages in 13 hours . pretty good going even by Owlstalk standards . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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