chizumgeorge Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 17/02/2019 at 08:01, sibon said: We can’t go down, for the same reason that we can’t make the playoffs. There are too many teams between us and relegation. Just as all the teams between us and sixth can’t lose every game, all the teams below us can’t win every game. Oh. Ipswich and Bolton are poo too. Proper poo . Unless we get deducted 12 points for falling foul of FFP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 On 17/02/2019 at 00:20, Ian said: Can you not do basic maths?....Rotherham can still mathematically win the league Actually... no they can't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, fred mciver said: For FFP , we need to be 12 points above relegation zone. Minimum. You just know this is possible. Its the Wednesday way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 4 hours ago, N0rtherner said: Actually... no they can't! Actually, yes they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamthesun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Sorry if this has been said before but..... FFS. What a stupid question. Can’t you just do the maths or were you that kid at school who spent the whole class picking his nose whilst staring out of the window and fiddling with his todger through his trousers? This isn’t an matter of conjecture. it’s simple fact. F*ck me! Knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Ian said: Actually, yes they can 34 points to get to the same points as the current no. 1 from a total of 39 available. BUT there's 21 teams between them and the top, you have to factor in that some of these will gain points too... I didn't do the maths, because frankly I couldn't be arsed , but I don't think it's mathematically possible for all the results to even go the way that they could actually win it. So I stick by my original conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamthesun Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, N0rtherner said: 34 points to get to the same points as the current no. 1 from a total of 39 available. BUT there's 21 teams between them and the top, you have to factor in that some of these will gain points too... I didn't do the maths, because frankly I couldn't be arsed , but I don't think it's mathematically possible for all the results to even go the way that they could actually win it. So I stick by my original conclusion. You are missing their whole point of “mathematically” safe. It means there is no mathematical way. Not that it isn’t likely. Or that it probably won’t happen. It means it cannot happen. Reacting to your neg btw not yr post. Edited February 19, 2019 by jamthesun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 My thoughts are that it's a fact we're not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 51 minutes ago, jamthesun said: You are missing their whole point of “mathematically” safe. It means there is no mathematical way. Not that it isn’t likely. Or that it probably won’t happen. It means it cannot happen. Reacting to your neg btw not yr post. Neg was only because I felt you went a bit overboard with hostility and could just say 'no'. Anyhow, I'm not talking about us, I was responding to someone claiming mathematically that Rotherham could win the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, N0rtherner said: Neg was only because I felt you went a bit overboard with hostility and could just say 'no'. Anyhow, I'm not talking about us, I was responding to someone claiming mathematically that Rotherham could win the Championship. Which they can.....plenty of draws in the games Rotherham aren’t playing in would be all it took Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 19 hours ago, Mountain Owl said: You just know this is possible. Its the Wednesday way. Sorry , just read Brum's massive FFP points deduction includes only 6 points for their £39 million 3 - year loss. If a precedent for us, looks like we'll be safe in Championship - probably for next few years, unless Brucey pulls a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, fred mciver said: Sorry , just read Brum's massive FFP points deduction includes only 6 points for their £39 million 3 - year loss. If a precedent for us, looks like we'll be safe in Championship - probably for next few years, unless Brucey pulls a miracle. TBF I don't think Brums 6 point deduction will be a precedent for us. From all the reports I've seen it appears that both Brum and ourselves had discussions with EFL regarding ways to reduce spending and cut future losses. It seems we have complied and Brum haven't, so we should in theory, be looked at in a different light. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Brum's sanctions are still only speculation, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggowl Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 can someone define mathematically? it does my head in reading some of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamthesun Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 13 hours ago, N0rtherner said: Neg was only because I felt you went a bit overboard with hostility and could just say 'no'. Anyhow, I'm not talking about us, I was responding to someone claiming mathematically that Rotherham could win the Championship. TBH It was a bit over the top (I may have had a drink) but it is a stupid question.:-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Reading and Rotherham will probably draw with each other on Saturday which won't help either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 20/02/2019 at 10:34, Hookowl said: TBF I don't think Brums 6 point deduction will be a precedent for us. From all the reports I've seen it appears that both Brum and ourselves had discussions with EFL regarding ways to reduce spending and cut future losses. It seems we have complied and Brum haven't, so we should in theory, be looked at in a different light. They also getting extra points for poor conduct , plus these 6 for £39 million breach. And they don't have non - trading shell companies and 'friends' for FFP. Unlike Chansiri whose conduct may also come under scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 20/02/2019 at 09:34, Hookowl said: TBF I don't think Brums 6 point deduction will be a precedent for us. From all the reports I've seen it appears that both Brum and ourselves had discussions with EFL regarding ways to reduce spending and cut future losses. It seems we have complied and Brum haven't, so we should in theory, be looked at in a different light. Hopefully they'll award us extra points instead of a deduction then HMSPTL is truly back on. Believe. Or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Great Big Galaa said: Reading and Rotherham will probably draw with each other on Saturday which won't help either side. And afterwards, all Rotherham fans will all be saying; damn, there goes the title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 91 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 On 16/02/2019 at 22:46, OxOwl said: Thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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