Bing Cosby Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: Proof and logic are two words that are redundant in this debate. Belief systems rely on faith..faith can't exist without belief. There cannot be any burden of proof on a belief system. Sentience is the driver for modern doubt. This is what we should be debating... Why do we THINK? WTF!? And why do I write WTF!?. BTW WTF? Takes longer to type FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I48 people in sheffield follow the Jedi religion . Im one, who are the others ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, S36 OWL said: I48 people in sheffield follow the Jedi religion . Im one, who are the others ? But still Leeds is bigger FFS...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Cosby Blunkett said: BTW WTF? Takes longer to type FFS Can't go back to FFS.. there's a copyright wrangle.. DOH!! WTF!?18™ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, TINKERBELL said: Tbf nobody liked them 2 who sang 500 miles I dont think we are on the "same beam" here Tinks .............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 The pope's dead. A perfect example of how religion, ( or ralgex, for Owlerton Ghost ), has a place in football . The bigger question of course is, does football have a place in religion ?? FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, cognacbarnowl said: The pope's dead. A perfect example of how religion, ( or ralgex, for Owlerton Ghost ), has a place in football . The bigger question of course is, does football have a place in religion ?? FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, cognacbarnowl said: The pope's dead. A perfect example of how religion, ( or ralgex, for Owlerton Ghost ), has a place in football . The bigger question of course is, does football have a place in religion ?? FFS wee pipe Emery with the big dentures as a vicar...."we're a broad church". WTF!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davetherave Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Thank goodness I'm a Wednesdayite. Thank god I'm an aetheist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: wee pipe Emery with the big dentures as a vicar...."we're a broad church". WTF!? I used to know Richard Emery's son. True story dat. BUT Was it Simon Church you are talking about. Or could it be Jordan Chapel ? I'm sure there used to be a Bishop playing too, along with blokes like Victor Moses, Bret Angel, Alex Baptiste, Reuben Lazarus and some bugger called Priest. Might get a couple of decent (god) squad players out of that lot FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anton DecChair Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Enlightening to see this on Owlstalk. Most clubs have a chaplain nowadays. That's ok because it's not part of the "matchday experience" and employees of the club can choose to engage or not. However, overt declarations of faith must be an issue that the FA should be addressing.. indeed FIFA. Overt political, religious and campaigning statements during a match are apparently, not permitted. Guardiola gets fined for wearing the "yellow ribbon" ... his personal statement of strong belief in a political cause. Fair enough... so why shouldn't overt demonstrations of faith be left in the dressing room? FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyCroppersHair Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I want religion to end. but not by banning it, I want people to individually come to the conclusion that religion is f*cking bullsh*t themselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelswfc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Interesting thread this, love how things like this pop up on Owlstalk quite regularly. Personally I'm a Christian so don't see any issue with the involvement of religion in football or anything else for that matter but I completely understand those who disagree. In terms of religion generally, I would say that Jesus is the cure for world division, anger, hate, envy and fear but I think it takes a lot of reading and patience with God to reach that way of thinking. The things Jesus said and did were absolutely radical and a lot of it is hard to understand without getting stuck in to it. I encourage people to do that even if you've got no interest in believing but just out of curiosity. UTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelswfc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Watson said: Can you demonstrate he even existed? Claims without evidence are merely that, claims. We can believe whatever we wish but it doesn't make them true. There are non-religious historical texts that refer to Jesus. There is evidence, it just takes a lot of reading to understand it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelswfc Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Cosby Blunkett said: Morality existed long before religion. Just saying. This is such interesting stuff. Assuming humans have always had morals, where did that come from? Is it just natural? Or is it from a sort of higher power? Perhaps worth thinking about but I don't think anyone has the answers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, joelswfc said: There are non-religious historical texts that refer to Jesus. There is evidence, it just takes a lot of reading to understand it all! Just leaves us with the dinosaurs ..those pesky earth predating dinosaurs. WTF!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musn't Grumble Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 For every player who drops to his knees to offer grateful thanks after a goal, there is a player from the opposition wondering why God allowed the ball to cross the line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisewoodowl Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 15 hours ago, trevdi9 said: was Rev Jeans first name Lee David, If I remember right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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