Guest mkowl Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Gi' ten bob millionaires their status back Nothing to do with that in the slightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The point me and @torres are making is that it wouldn't have to be the same type of fans groups in the past. I fully 100% accept that the past is a terrible barometer for the future. I was an advocate of a proper Supporters Club set up. Because we have never had this it is hard to explain how it could work effectively in practice, but it does work well in Germany. Given they have affordable prices, full stadiums and great atmospheres I would suggest it does work. The fans are not involved in the business side at all, but concentrate just on fan experience issues. Can you imagine the benefits if the fans had input into how Merchandising Club shop Concourse catering The Wednesday Tap Non football events Pre match atmosphere were operated or put together That would be win win, the fans get input into what they want and if it is right guess what the Club would increase revenues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 hours ago, torres said: What i would be suggesting wouldn't be a ''fans group'' really. - Not anything like those 2. I agree people involved in those get above their station and wallow in self importance. Maybe we just need more organisation to these steering groups? Make them have a purpose/structure - with a productive conclusion Just quote this and everything's solved Steering groups are made up of experts who oversee a research project to ensure that protocol is followed and provide advice and troubleshoot where necessary. It is good practice to include at least two members of the public on a steering group. Their role is to provide input based on their direct experience of the topic under investigation. The steering group usually meets at key stages during the course of a project and influences strategic decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffwed4ever Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 How do you attend tonight? Is it by invite only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonOWL Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Ask Chansiri "Why No PREMIAR Leeage?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, mkowl said: The point me and @torres are making is that it wouldn't have to be the same type of fans groups in the past. I fully 100% accept that the past is a terrible barometer for the future. I was an advocate of a proper Supporters Club set up. Because we have never had this it is hard to explain how it could work effectively in practice, but it does work well in Germany. Given they have affordable prices, full stadiums and great atmospheres I would suggest it does work. The fans are not involved in the business side at all, but concentrate just on fan experience issues. Can you imagine the benefits if the fans had input into how Merchandising Club shop Concourse catering The Wednesday Tap Non football events Pre match atmosphere were operated or put together That would be win win, the fans get input into what they want and if it is right guess what the Club would increase revenues. The second you announced it the fans would write it off totally I can't stress this point enough Wednesday fans HATE (DETEST) fans groups Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: The second you announced it the fans would write it off totally I can't stress this point enough Wednesday fans HATE (DETEST) fans groups Don't announce it. Secretly recruit some fans and listen to them in much smaller meetings than a big public one so there's more debate and less grandstanding. It could even be one to one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheffield1973 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) I went to the last one and interesting as it was, I’m not at all sure that the Chairman was really listening to the degree that he would change the way he did things in the future. My view is that if you want to ask a question and get it off your chest, by all means go and say your bit, but don’t expect any concrete action points at the end or things to be done any differently afterwards. These meetings are not minuted nor action points generated at the end as far as I can see, so there’s no way at all to measure how useful they are beyond a talking shop. Edited March 9, 2018 by Sheffield1973 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, mkowl said: The point me and @torres are making is that it wouldn't have to be the same type of fans groups in the past. I fully 100% accept that the past is a terrible barometer for the future. I was an advocate of a proper Supporters Club set up. Because we have never had this it is hard to explain how it could work effectively in practice, but it does work well in Germany. Given they have affordable prices, full stadiums and great atmospheres I would suggest it does work. The fans are not involved in the business side at all, but concentrate just on fan experience issues. Can you imagine the benefits if the fans had input into how Merchandising Club shop Concourse catering The Wednesday Tap Non football events Pre match atmosphere were operated or put together That would be win win, the fans get input into what they want and if it is right guess what the Club would increase revenues. I think thats where the club do not take enough notice of the fans... But Mr Chansiri thought it best we bought Jordan Rhodes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Lets hope the questions that need asking are answered. more pressing concerns than spending time talking about stripes & pies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: Don't announce it. Secretly recruit some fans and listen to them in much smaller meetings than a big public one so there's more debate and less grandstanding. It could even be one to one. I'm going underco...err...no...wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Hookowl said: Just quote this and everything's solved Steering groups are made up of experts who oversee a research project to ensure that protocol is followed and provide advice and troubleshoot where necessary. It is good practice to include at least two members of the public on a steering group. Their role is to provide input based on their direct experience of the topic under investigation. The steering group usually meets at key stages during the course of a project and influences strategic decisions. Copied and pasted straight out of the APM book of knowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Owling Wolfe said: He's not the first, and I doubt he'll be the last, have you tried getting a response from the shop. Derek Accora (or whatever his name is) would give up. Yep but he only spookes when he want's summat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Morepork said: As in no radiators on??? On that topic... I think and operate better in cool temperatures. Most people do... FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Animal said: Hope someone is going to create a thread on what’s been questioned and answered so people don’t have to waste half of their life scrolling through this thread. Try going to the "STEERING GROUP omdt fred Animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 To save trawling through either this or the Steering omdt, can anyone point me at a summary of what happened at this meeting? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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