Thorpe Hesley OWL Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Been tonight, very good point, would have snapped your hand off if offered that beforehand. Looked good in 1st half but up against it in 2nd, but still good considering injuries etc. Last couple of games have highlighted for me that both fox and palmer are not good enough to play in this system. Both could easily have cost us the point tonight. Big positives with venancio and pelupessy both having great games and wildsmith of course with the clean sheet. Hopefully jos can see where the problems lie and address this asap. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Thornley was very good also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wing-back quality is crucial in this system. We don't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If we need an upgrade on Fox and Palmer then fair enough. However, they must be doing something right as we aren’t losing games. The whole team is responsible for the clean sheets in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thorpe Hesley OWL said: Been tonight, very good point, would have snapped your hand off if offered that beforehand. Looked good in 1st half but up against it in 2nd, but still good considering injuries etc. Last couple of games have highlighted for me that both fox and palmer are not good enough to play in this system. Both could easily have cost us the point tonight. Big positives with venancio and pelupessy both having great games and wildsmith of course with the clean sheet. Hopefully jos can see where the problems lie and address this asap. If we continue to play this system then I agree. This role is key but not defensively. They have to be the attacking outlet. For me neither has that. Not sure we have the players at the club to really make the system work. Probably Reach on the left. Could give Lee a go on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richowl Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Fox was the worst player on the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, richowl said: Fox was the worst player on the pitch He may have been the worst player in the ground 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kopparberg said: If we need an upgrade on Fox and Palmer then fair enough. However, they must be doing something right as we aren’t losing games. The whole team is responsible for the clean sheets in my eyes. Agree. Palmer has never been quite good enough but he tries and so does Fox, who seems to have improved a bit. There hasn't been a good full back capable of good attacking play since a fit Lewis Buxton. CC showed complacency about this and he ( or the recruiters) concentrated on acquiring strikers and midfielders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Yeah we need better from wing backs in terms of attacking threat for sure. In the long run I'd be tempted to try K Lee at rwb. And what about Penney for Lwb? Or reach. Also pudil could go there but he seems a better cb right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Wing-back quality is crucial in this system. We don't have it. 100% this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticOwl Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 (edited) I believe it was in the 1998 World Cup Brazil had Carlos and Cafu as their wing backs? That is the sort of system we are looking at. For this system to work we really need better quality than we currently have. Edited January 30, 2018 by CF83OWL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s6 owl Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Tbf that Traore is probably the toughest opponent Fox will come up against all season but i agree we do need to upgrade the full back positions in the summer. Reach should play there IMO especially at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Really hope we can bring in a left sided player tomorrow that can replace Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: He may have been the worst player in the ground Really respect those who were there. Given Fox's pedigree, he was never going to be above average, but he does seem committed and shows energy at least. Credit to him. Now Pudil has slowed, we do not have one good full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Beholder said: Yeah we need better from wing backs in terms of attacking threat for sure. In the long run I'd be tempted to try K Lee at rwb. And what about Penney for Lwb? Or reach. Also pudil could go there but he seems a better cb right now. Good idea about Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 two quality full back are a must in the Summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Animis said: two quality full back are a must in the Summer Tomorrow would be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 It’s a tough job in that position in general. We probably would need specific and quality players for the role. Plus, all the time I’ve watched Wednesday you’ve got someone shouting “get forward!” followed by “get back thennnn!” about 6 seconds later. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 1 minute ago, s6 owl said: Tbf that Traore is probably the toughest opponent Fox will come up against all season but i agree we do need to upgrade the full back positions in the summer. Reach should play there IMO especially at home. I feared Traore. He looked dynamic on Saturday vs Brighton. Even if there was luck involved, well done to the team tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Newsome Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Traore is all fur coat and no nickers, got no final product at all but looks good beating a couple of men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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