beloved_aunt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The lad has clearly got something. The season before we signed him Ronaldo was the only Portuguese player who had scored more top flight goals. Also that strike against Leeds. The club picked him up for under £3m and whilst every time you buy a player from abroad there is a risk this seemed like a very sensible investment. His main problem was there was no space for him in a 4-4-2, if we move away from this he can still contribute I'm confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkstar Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 57 minutes ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Only change for me is Hunt instead of Palmer. Our Liam is a bit crap to be honest! Ordinarily I'd probably agree but having seen Hunt on Tuesday night I don't think I'd chuck him back in yet. Looked very rusty and off the pace for me. Palmer is perfectly capable in that position, I'm not sure why he gets the level if stick he does tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkstar Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 As for Matias, looked nice and lively, always on the shoulder of the last defender looking to get work the channels and get in behind. I think may be that was the problem CC had with him. He didn't want us to go for the early ball in behind, rather compress the play and work opening with tight passing. From what weve seen so far it looks like Jos fits thd system to the available players and places more value on pace and stretching the game so I think we may well get to see a fair bit more of Matias and Joao for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 17/01/2018 at 10:40, TodwickOwl said: His spinning off and running off the ball work was good last night - its a shame none of our midfielders could pick out the passes. He kept dropping deep and then running in behind - Exactly this. It's about getting the blend right up front. We've missed someone to get in behind for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Lord Snooty said: Exactly this. It's about getting the blend right up front. We've missed someone to get in behind for some time. The best 2 defence splitting passes were from the warrior. Melted a line in the snow with their heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, beloved_aunt said: His main problem was there was no space for him in a 4-4-2, if we move away from this he can still contribute I'm confident. Spot on. Became quite clear (even when not injured) that they didn't think he had the defensive capabilities to play a midfield role in a modern 4-4-2. With that restrictive system seemingly binned now, Matias could become like a new signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Once again showing Carlos utter ineptness. How he can buy him then not know how to use him is ludicrous. Do feel for the lad hes had a wretched 2 years here. Think he played left of a 3 in Portugal (Joao middle in same team) so we'd be wise to use him there or up front in a 2. Edited January 18, 2018 by swfc-dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 JL matias well keep on playing him in same position and see how he goes on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) On 1/17/2018 at 09:07, wilyfox said: With FF out for a coupla months+ Matias' attributes very welcome. Doesn't fight and scrap in the same way... I'm not sure that FF's bullying of poor Sammy was a good thing. Edited January 18, 2018 by George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, George said: Well with Winnall still at Derby... Chances of Winnall wanting to walk away from Derby are pretty slim right now, I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ng10 owl Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Dunkstar said: Ordinarily I'd probably agree but having seen Hunt on Tuesday night I don't think I'd chuck him back in yet. Looked very rusty and off the pace for me. Palmer is perfectly capable in that position, I'm not sure why he gets the level if stick he does tbh. Because with all the time in the world, he can't cross or finish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 17/01/2018 at 10:29, GEE said: think he will start with Rhodes and bring Matias on in second half, might cause more of a problem when Cardiff defenders are a little tired Or start with Marco and go three goals up and bring on Jordan to see the game out ??? Possibly ? Probarbably ? Maybe ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 We have all mostly been viewing him as a winger thanks to Carlos. Most of the time we saw him as a replacement starter for Ross Wallace when really he is a striker/wide forward. Hope Abdi gets fit and can get in the side somehow. Matias and Joao have new limitless futures with us all being well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 4 hours ago, hugeowl said: Palmer is much more confident on the ball than Hunt has better distribution and is more suited to the 3-5-2 system . My hunch is Jos will prefer Palmer . Liam is very poor at crossing. He gives his all but in my opinion he isn't good enough. In the summer it's s new right back for me and Hunt as back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkstar Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ng10 owl said: Because with all the time in the world, he can't cross or finish... Hunts not much better in that regard imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shetland Owl Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Hope its Matias and Joao on Saturday. Palmer has done well recently, would play him as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Kagoshimaowl said: Liam is very poor at crossing. He gives his all but in my opinion he isn't good enough. In the summer it's s new right back for me and Hunt as back up. Compared to Hunt he is like waddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
109Waddle Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Against a Neil Warnock championship team, I would start with Rhodes and Nuhiu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, hugeowl said: Compared to Hunt he is like waddle Totally disagree but whatever. I think Palmer is really poor but I hope I'm wrong. Maybe the wing back position will suit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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