ramone Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: That's quite possibly the most obvious statement I've ever read I think what he's trying to say is he's no more qualified than any of us to give that viewpoint. In fact, he's probably less qualified given we all know more about the club than he does. He's just got a license to print drivel thats all... Anyone that takes a blind bit of notice of anything he, Chris Holt and Alan Biggs churn out need their heads looking at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Cosby Blunkett said: Where does he say he wants him sacked? I don't want him sacked, I just want him to pull his fricking head out of his arse!! where did I say howson wanted him sacked ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Why the need for the abuse? He's just a bloke doing his job Absolutely no need How is calling a no mark jouno abusive...? He's just stating a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just now, ramone said: I think what he's trying to say is he's no more qualified than any of us to give that viewpoint. In fact, he's probably less qualified given we all know more about the club than he does. That makes no sense Surely a person who watches every minute of every single game and doesn't have any bias towards Sheffield Wednesday emotionally or from a fan perspective is better placed to give a realistic non-bias view of what's going on? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, ramone said: I think what he's trying to say is he's no more qualified than any of us to give that viewpoint. In fact, he's probably less qualified given we all know more about the club than he does. He's just got a license to print drivel thats all... Anyone that takes a blind bit of notice of anything he, Chris Holt and Alan Biggs churn out need their heads looking at... well thank feck ,the cavalry's arrived 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Cosby Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, torryowl said: where did I say howson wanted him sacked ? 4 minutes ago, Cosby Blunkett said: I just don't agree with him or any of the others that want carlos sacked Edited December 8, 2017 by Cosby Blunkett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Bet your missus has read a few volumes though eh Torrey ? Sorry if I've spoiled any meals or drinks here thought I'd let the younger viewers see our Barbara in the pink. You wouldn't would you? (Steveger banned from replying to this post mods please) Well Hello gorgeous...... where did they dig you up ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woozie Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 27 minutes ago, torryowl said: he would do he's a journalist but I bet he wouldn't know how to cut someone free with there car wrapped round them .......sorry I didn't realise I had to have English a level to post on here Bet he doesn't know how to Photoshop Megson's face on to famous propaganda photos either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: That makes no sense Surely a person who watches every minute of every single game and doesn't have any bias towards Sheffield Wednesday emotionally or from a fan perspective is better placed to give a realistic non-bias view of what's going on? he can give any view he likes biased or not .don't mean it's right or we have to agree with it ......this fan base is split we all know that those who are anti carlos will lap up what howson said those backing carlos probably wont .....if he feels pouring fuel on the fire will sell more newspapers then fair enough that's his job but that apart I don't see what good an article like that does . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athelwulf Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 If you still believe he can get us up, then you rightly don't want him sacked. If you no longer believe he can do it, then you rightly want him out. But I don't understand those who say that he "deserves" until the end of the season. Why? He's being handsomely paid to do a job. If you didn't do your jobs properly would the boss say "Well I ought to fire you, but you're a nice bloke who did a good job in the past so I won't."? You'd be down the road quicker than Evo eats his dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: That makes no sense Surely a person who watches every minute of every single game and doesn't have any bias towards Sheffield Wednesday emotionally or from a fan perspective is better placed to give a realistic non-bias view of what's going on? No need for the abuse Neil... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, torryowl said: he can give any view he likes biased or not .don't mean it's right or we have to agree with it ......this fan base is split we all know that those who are anti carlos will lap up what howson said those backing carlos probably wont .....if he feels pouring fuel on the fire will sell more newspapers then fair enough that's his job but that apart I don't see what good an article like that does . So are you saying that you find what he says to be inaccurate and not true or that you're taking it personally because he's been critical of Carlos and the current form? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, Woozie said: Bet he doesn't know how to Photoshop Megson's face on to famous propaganda photos either. we have summat in common then coz neither do I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 18 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: That makes no sense Surely a person who watches every minute of every single game and doesn't have any bias towards Sheffield Wednesday emotionally or from a fan perspective is better placed to give a realistic non-bias view of what's going on? Or he's getting paid to give his views? So he does. Doesn't make them right or wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Athelwulf said: If you still believe he can get us up, then you rightly don't want him sacked. If you no longer believe he can do it, then you rightly want him out. But I don't understand those who say that he "deserves" until the end of the season. Why? He's being handsomely paid to do a job. If you didn't do your jobs properly would the boss say "Well I ought to fire you, but you're a nice bloke who did a good job in the past so I won't."? You'd be down the road quicker than Evo eats his dinner. I can only speak for myself and if things don't improve fairly sharpish then he should be gone ......I think he's capable of turning it round others have a different view .I suppose it depends what sort of boss you've got and to be fair those that want him gone they should be directing there anger chansiri's way as he's the only one who can pull the trigger . a few chansiri out chants may well do the trick . good luck though to anyone starting one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 48 minutes ago, torryowl said: your leading me here but i'll go along with it .......I thought last season they were very astute (not good to watch) ,the preference for keeping it tight worked as 4th place shows . this season it's not because we seem incapable of not giving stupid goals away . van aken has been culpable for more goals than the entire centre backs gave away all season last year and he's far from the only one .when you cant keep a clean sheet down to individual errors then no matter what tactics you use your gonna struggle to win games ...chuck in that arguably the 2 best players have hardly kicked a ball and dare I say not getting the breaks from the refs I can see why we are where we are . If your going to slowly and idly stroll the ball back and forth on the edge of your 18 yard box 80% of the game your inviting pressure and against a high tempo pressing team it means mistakes are made couple that with the fact that when your playing most of your football in your defending quarter of the pitch any small mistake is amplified as you've far less time or space to make a mends and are punished more often. These mistakes when your playing much higher up the pitch have less effect as you have time to get back and snuff out the danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 8, 2017 Author Share Posted December 8, 2017 Just now, shezzas left peg said: If your going to slowly and idly stroll the ball back and forth on the edge of your 18 yard box 80% of the game your inviting pressure and against a high tempo pressing team it means mistakes are made couple that with the fact that when your playing most of your football in your defending quarter of the pitch any small mistake is amplified as you've far less time or space to make a mends and are punished more often. These mistakes when your playing much higher up the pitch have less effect as you have time to get back and snuff out the danger. Very true Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 24 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: That makes no sense Surely a person who watches every minute of every single game and doesn't have any bias towards Sheffield Wednesday emotionally or from a fan perspective is better placed to give a realistic non-bias view of what's going on? 5 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: Or he's getting paid to give his views? So he does. Doesn't make them right or wrong. Good job Piers Morgan doesn't work for the Star then and isn't an Owl eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 When asked what he has to do to turn it around carlos said (and I paraphrase)' we will keep doing what we have been doing.' That says it all about this manager. His approach will never change. It went stale last season and is getting progressively more rotten this. He really needs to f#@k off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 minute ago, shezzas left peg said: If your going to slowly and idly stroll the ball back and forth on the edge of your 18 yard box 80% of the game your inviting pressure and against a high tempo pressing team it means mistakes are made couple that with the fact that when your playing most of your football in your defending quarter of the pitch any small mistake is amplified as you've far less time or space to make a mends and are punished more often. These mistakes when your playing much higher up the pitch have less effect as you have time to get back and snuff out the danger. I agree but last season it worked because we didn't make individual mistakes and kept clean sheets this season we are so it's not .......if he doesn't cut out the errors then he's a dead man walking there's no doubt about that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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