Miruic Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Westwood hunt lees hutch pudil wallace jones/ bb abdi/ lee reach ff fletch think we've got to be careful not to try shoehorning players into positions. It should be the best players for each position. I love lee and Bb they were great last year but if they're not as good as abdi and Jones then they shouldn't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Its always been 442 and now he has 4 quality wingers he's hardly going to change. I can't imagine we will see a 5mil left back, apart from dire emergencies. Many questions... Could he use FF and Reach on either wing? More likely he has decided it is Fletch + FF up front. Knowing that FF comes deep to fetch the ball, how does Abdi fit into CM? Will he alternate between FF and Hooper up front? Which five of these eleven players will sit on the bench? Fletcher, Hooper, FF, Reach, Abdi, Jones, Wallace, Lee, Bannan, Buckley, Joao We will find out the master plan 45 minutes before Wigan. Exciting times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: True. But the our 3 biggest signings this summer are probably at their best in a 4231. I'd say 4-3-3, but each their own I'd hazard that Carlos still doesn't really know what formation he wants yet. I know Wily's about to come in and say "it's 4-4-2", but it's so fluid it regularly looks like 4-3-3. I suspect the next week will be spent refining the system. Who knows what'll happen... at least we have options I guess. Still painfully short at LB mind, but at least Reach can cover there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 minute ago, StudentOwl said: I'd say 4-3-3, but each their own I'd hazard a guess that I really have not got a clue what formation Carlos wants. I know Wily's about to come in and say "it's 4-4-2", but it's so fluid it regularly looks like 4-3-3. I suspect the next week will be spent refining the system. Who knows what'll happen... at least we have options I guess. Still painfully short at LB mind, but at least Reach can cover there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 19 minutes ago, wilyfox said: Anyone noticed that Carlos likes 4-4-2? Anybody? That could be because he didn't have the players and had no for centre backs I do get you're point though and think he will still line up 442 but baring depth at the back I think our starting 11 is better suited to a 352 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earlsfieldowl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 6 minutes ago, Miruic said: Westwood hunt lees hutch pudil wallace jones/ bb abdi/ lee reach ff fletch think we've got to be careful not to try shoehorning players into positions. It should be the best players for each position. I love lee and Bb they were great last year but if they're not as good as abdi and Jones then they shouldn't play. This is what is still a worry with Carlos - and can he make these tough calls? Which previous shoe ins will have to start making way... This will be key to our upcoming results and his own future here...we have just made our most expensive signing which will apply just that bit more pressure to get results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOwl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) 3-4-3 (Guardiola/Bayern Style): Westwood Hutch Lees Pudil Lee Jones Bannan Reach Abdi Fessi Fletcher Edited August 31, 2016 by TrueOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Westwood Palmer Lees Loovens Pudil Reach Lee Bannan FF Fletcher Hooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I think the main issue with 442 at the moment, is where does Abdi fit? We've paid a big fee, he's a class act and he's going to play. But he's not a winger and i can't really imagine him playing centrally in a 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: I think the main issue with 442 at the moment, is where does Abdi fit? We've paid a big fee, he's a class act and he's going to play. But he's not a winger and i can't really imagine him playing centrally in a 2. Looking at what prices have been paid today, we have a lot of very valuable players. The cost of recent purchases or the value of existing players can't determine who should play. For example, Lee would sell for more than we paid for Abdi. Bannan would sell for more than we paid for Jones. etc... At least after today we should never see Abdi or Bannan out wide again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It will be either Westwood Palmer - Lees - Loovens - Pudil Wallace - Lee - Abdi - Reach Fletcher - Forestieri OR Westwood Palmer - Lees - Loovens - Reach Wallace - Lee - Abdi - Forestieri Fletcher - Hooper as the starting 11 against Wigan, with Hutchinson, Bannan, Buckley and Hunt definitely coming in for Bristol City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 4-2-3-1 westwood Lee lees hutch pudil jones bannan Reach abdi ff fletch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 minute ago, Holmowl said: Looking at what prices have been paid today, we have a lot of very valuable players. The cost of recent purchases or the value of existing players can't determine who should play. For example, Lee would sell for more than we paid for Abdi. Bannan would sell for more than we paid for Jones. etc... At least after today we should never see Abdi or Bannan out wide again. I'm not saying the cost of players should determine if they play. The point is for CC/DC to rate a 29 year old enough to pay £4m, he's going to play. Whether he should or not is a different argument. We're Sheffield Wednesday, we don't go throwing that amount of cash around willy nilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, fpowl said: It's becoming very hard to pick a starting 11 or even a formation now. very few positions are looking safe for me probably westwood, Hutchinson, lees, and maybe fletcher, One things for sure there is going to be some quality on the bench Whats everyone's best formation and starting 11 on fit squad with current players. Wouldn't like to be Carlos picking it anyway What's Fletcher doing to Abdi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 35 minutes ago, IstillhateSteveBould said: I think the main issue with 442 at the moment, is where does Abdi fit? We've paid a big fee, he's a class act and he's going to play. But he's not a winger and i can't really imagine him playing centrally in a 2. A true gentleman wouldn't kiss and tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 13 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said: What's Fletcher doing to Abdi? A true gentleman wouldn't kiss and tell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Not sure it's as simple as picking a best eleven now. What's good is we have competition for places and some versatility in our squad. The next match day squad for me when everyone is fit and back from suspension would be. Westwood, Wildsmith Hunt, Lees, Hutchinson, Pudil, Loovens, Sasso Lee, Jones, Bannan, Reach, Abdi, Wallace, Buckley Fletcher, Forestieri, Hooper Thats an extremely strong match day squad, the best I can remember! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.flem Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Westwood Hunt Lees Hutchinson Pudil Wallace Lee/Jones Bannan/Abdi Reach Forestieri Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It's over to you now Carlos, with the below options he needs to find a starting eleven that will win the majority of matches it plays. Good luck! Westwood Wildsmith Hunt Palmer Lees Sasso Hutch. Loovens Pudil Helan Wallace Buckley Jones Bannan Abdi Lee Reach Sougou Forestieri Hooper Fletcher Joao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southie_Owl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 7 minutes ago, Southie_Owl said: It's over to you now Carlos, with the below options he needs to find a starting eleven that will win the majority of matches it plays. Good luck! Westwood Wildsmith. Kean Hunt Palmer Lees Sasso Hutch. Loovens Pudil Helan Wallace Buckley. Stobbs Jones Bannan. Semedo Abdi Lee. Melo Reach Sougou. Matias Forestieri Hooper. Bus Fletcher Joao. Nuhiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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