DJMortimer Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Now you'll get accused of being Mortimer's crony. Don't be jealous. You're still my favourite ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Right as pointed out Jon you said he don't score enough, He's our top scorer already this season, Then you say scappy goals and penalty's don't count? So why oh why Is it classed as a goal? Now you're complaining he don't do enough on pitch? For crying out loud! Not to mention all this clique business your acting like a child ffs, Oh I know everything there Is If you don't agree with me I'm going to cry your all against me, You go on about your 'ITK' Look at me Look at me I read It off twitter then it never comes to light and you backtrack (You and a few others). He's a target man, There not going to be scoring 20-30 goals a season are they? You name me a target man that ever has? Peter Crouch target man, how many goals a season does he score? Very few. Most modern centre-forwards operate in front of the second strikers or central attacking midfielders, and do the majority of the ball handling outside the box. The present role of centre-forward is sometimes interchangeable with that of an attacking midfielder, especially in the 4–3–1–2 or 4–1–2–1–2 formations. A centre-forward usually must be strong, to win key headers and 'outmuscle' defenders. The term centre-forward is taken from the early football playing formation in which there were five forwardplayers: two Outside forwards, two inside forwards, and one centre-forward. This post is probably the biggest load of garbage I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUowl Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This post is probably the biggest load of garbage I've ever read. Lack of proof reading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mancunian_Owl Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 102 pages in cliffs Nuhui is poo poo and if you don't agree then you are a happy clapper (although can you be an angry clapper?) or an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) This is my last post on Nuhiu and my opinion on him. Count this as definitive and representative of what I actually think about him. I'm not trolling at all. Nuhiu for me isn't good enough. As I've said already he is far too one dimensional for him to be a player good enough to fire us to promotion. Many people seem to be under the impression he's our best striker. Compare him to every other clubs supposed best striker and let's see what position were in. Forest - Assombalonga - no question who's the better player Watford - Deeney - again, no question who's the best out of them Wolves - Dickho - Take Dickho over Nuhiu every day Norwich - Grabban - nothing to say Millwall - Gregory - probably take Nuhiu over him frankly Charlton - Vetokole - banged goals in so far, looks considerably better In fact, I could go through pretty much every teams and probably the only teams I'd put Nuhiu as a better striker for us than theirs is Rotherham, Millwall and Leeds. Great. And that's entirely my point with the guy. Sure he will do a decent job. He'll score the odd lucky goal. He can run about and cause teams problems. But does he have any match-winning quality? Absolutely not. At best he should be third or fourth choice for us. He's got nice feet, links play up well, can hold it up okay - he's got some decent attributes - but like I've said if we have any aspirations to be one of the better teams in this league he isn't good enough. Or if he is good enough - then he can't be partnered alongside Stevie. He's got some serious flaws in his game. The fact he can't run is one. As I've said for ages his lack of pace is seriously worrying. He really struggles to get going. As I've also said his lack of movement - compounded with the fact he can't run - when the ball is in wide positions also crucifies his usefulness in front of goal. On top of that, his finishing is erratic at best when he is prevented chances and most of his goals come from 6 yards out or 25 yards out. There's no in-between, there's no middle ground and there's no consistency. But my biggest gripe - and one people continue to stick up for him for - is his woeful concentration levels. I don't know whether he just gets lazy, or thinks too far ahead - but he does these really good bits of play and then he just gives it away. If you watched Madine on Saturday - he didn't have a great game at all - but he very rarely lost possession. The same is often the case with Nuhiu, but there's little scraps of play where he just does a sloppy pass, or takes too long with the ball, or a poor touch and the opposition have it back. It'd be okay if he wasn't our apparent focal point of our attack - and the guy who sets the attacks up. If instead we played through midfield and built from there it wouldn't be a problem at all. But it doesn't. We play when Nuhiu has the ball at his feet. As so many people have banged on about on this very thread - Nuhiu is a centre forward. His job is to get us playing in the final third. We can't do that if he loses the ball unnecessarily on a fairly regular occassion. It's intensely frustrating because there are shreds of a really good player in there. But sadly we do not have the squad depth and versatility to have a player in there who can play one role - and that is to hold it up. He isn't fast or efficient enough to utilise the ball in a passing side. He isn't fast enough to stretch defences when the play is mainly in the middle third. He can't play as a box goalscorer. He can't run the channels due to his lack of pace. His literal one and only job that he can perform for the team is a centre forward who holds it up and links play. He will be with us for a few years I think. He will score maybe 10 a year and he'll probably go down a 'legend' or whatever. He will have a decent career with us. He will never be outstanding. He won't get us promoted. He won't ever come anywhere close to playing in the Premier League for another team. Just an average Championship striker - one of those players the fans like because he ran about a lot and did some nice touches but largely was ineffective - while on the odd occasion he caused some decent teams problems with his height. Edited September 3, 2014 by JonTheOwl66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Bitter about what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I was going to comment on this load of bollix...but there are too many posters far more eloquent than me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roaminowl Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Typical JTO. Aero spends hours typing out his longest ever post in the history of Owlstalk and you spend 2 minutes typing a longer one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corneliusreeve Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This is my last post on Nuhiu and my opinion on him. I Bet it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 FFS don't start a book...you'd get poo poo odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan™ Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Well at least he's gone up from 'crap' to 'decent' in JTO's eyes. It's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big Guns Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Most wud rather comment on JTO and Ian than newho tbh I bet it's not them saddos who get accused of derailing the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Bitter about what? I've no idea what makes you bitter Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I was going to comment on this load of bollix...but there are too many posters far more eloquent than me Such a strange person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocomotiveOwlerton Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This is my last post on Nuhiu and my opinion on him. Count this as definitive and representative of what I actually think about him. I'm not trolling at all. Nuhiu for me isn't good enough. As I've said already he is far too one dimensional for him to be a player good enough to fire us to promotion. Many people seem to be under the impression he's our best striker. Compare him to every other clubs supposed best striker and let's see what position were in. Forest - Assombalonga - no question who's the better player Watford - Deeney - again, no question who's the best out of them Wolves - Dickho - Take Dickho over Nuhiu every day Norwich - Grabban - nothing to say Millwall - Gregory - probably take Nuhiu over him frankly Charlton - Vetokole - banged goals in so far, looks considerably better In fact, I could go through pretty much every teams and probably the only teams I'd put Nuhiu as a better striker for us than theirs is Rotherham, Millwall and Leeds. Great. And that's entirely my point with the guy. Sure he will do a decent job. He'll score the odd lucky goal. He can run about and cause teams problems. But does he have any match-winning quality? Absolutely not. At best he should be third or fourth choice for us. He's got nice feet, links play up well, can hold it up okay - he's got some decent attributes - but like I've said if we have any aspirations to be one of the better teams in this league he isn't good enough. Or if he is good enough - then he can't be partnered alongside Stevie. He's got some serious flaws in his game. The fact he can't run is one. As I've said for ages his lack of pace is seriously worrying. He really struggles to get going. As I've also said his lack of movement - compounded with the fact he can't run - when the ball is in wide positions also crucifies his usefulness in front of goal. On top of that, his finishing is erratic at best when he is prevented chances and most of his goals come from 6 yards out or 25 yards out. There's no in-between, there's no middle ground and there's no consistency. But my biggest gripe - and one people continue to stick up for him for - is his woeful concentration levels. I don't know whether he just gets lazy, or thinks too far ahead - but he does these really good bits of play and then he just gives it away. If you watched Madine on Saturday - he didn't have a great game at all - but he very rarely lost possession. The same is often the case with Nuhiu, but there's little scraps of play where he just does a sloppy pass, or takes too long with the ball, or a poor touch and the opposition have it back. It'd be okay if he wasn't our apparent focal point of our attack - and the guy who sets the attacks up. If instead we played through midfield and built from there it wouldn't be a problem at all. But it doesn't. We play when Nuhiu has the ball at his feet. As so many people have banged on about on this very thread - Nuhiu is a centre forward. His job is to get us playing in the final third. We can't do that if he loses the ball unnecessarily on a fairly regular occassion. It's intensely frustrating because there are shreds of a really good player in there. But sadly we do not have the squad depth and versatility to have a player in there who can play one role - and that is to hold it up. He isn't fast or efficient enough to utilise the ball in a passing side. He isn't fast enough to stretch defences when the play is mainly in the middle third. He can't play as a box goalscorer. He can't run the channels due to his lack of pace. His literal one and only job that he can perform for the team is a centre forward who holds it up and links play. He will be with us for a few years I think. He will score maybe 10 a year and he'll probably go down a 'legend' or whatever. He will have a decent career with us. He will never be outstanding. He won't get us promoted. He won't ever come anywhere close to playing in the Premier League for another team. Just an average Championship striker - one of those players the fans like because he ran about a lot and did some nice touches but largely was ineffective - while on the odd occasion he caused some decent teams problems with his height. tl;dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 This is my last post on Nuhiu and my opinion on him. Count this as definitive and representative of what I actually think about him. I'm not trolling at all. Nuhiu for me isn't good enough. As I've said already he is far too one dimensional for him to be a player good enough to fire us to promotion. Many people seem to be under the impression he's our best striker. Compare him to every other clubs supposed best striker and let's see what position were in. Forest - Assombalonga - no question who's the better player Watford - Deeney - again, no question who's the best out of them Wolves - Dickho - Take Dickho over Nuhiu every day Norwich - Grabban - nothing to say Millwall - Gregory - probably take Nuhiu over him frankly Charlton - Vetokole - banged goals in so far, looks considerably better In fact, I could go through pretty much every teams and probably the only teams I'd put Nuhiu as a better striker for us than theirs is Rotherham, Millwall and Leeds. Great. And that's entirely my point with the guy. Sure he will do a decent job. He'll score the odd lucky goal. He can run about and cause teams problems. But does he have any match-winning quality? Absolutely not. At best he should be third or fourth choice for us. He's got nice feet, links play up well, can hold it up okay - he's got some decent attributes - but like I've said if we have any aspirations to be one of the better teams in this league he isn't good enough. Or if he is good enough - then he can't be partnered alongside Stevie. He's got some serious flaws in his game. The fact he can't run is one. As I've said for ages his lack of pace is seriously worrying. He really struggles to get going. As I've also said his lack of movement - compounded with the fact he can't run - when the ball is in wide positions also crucifies his usefulness in front of goal. On top of that, his finishing is erratic at best when he is prevented chances and most of his goals come from 6 yards out or 25 yards out. There's no in-between, there's no middle ground and there's no consistency. But my biggest gripe - and one people continue to stick up for him for - is his woeful concentration levels. I don't know whether he just gets lazy, or thinks too far ahead - but he does these really good bits of play and then he just gives it away. If you watched Madine on Saturday - he didn't have a great game at all - but he very rarely lost possession. The same is often the case with Nuhiu, but there's little scraps of play where he just does a sloppy pass, or takes too long with the ball, or a poor touch and the opposition have it back. It'd be okay if he wasn't our apparent focal point of our attack - and the guy who sets the attacks up. If instead we played through midfield and built from there it wouldn't be a problem at all. But it doesn't. We play when Nuhiu has the ball at his feet. As so many people have banged on about on this very thread - Nuhiu is a centre forward. His job is to get us playing in the final third. We can't do that if he loses the ball unnecessarily on a fairly regular occassion. It's intensely frustrating because there are shreds of a really good player in there. But sadly we do not have the squad depth and versatility to have a player in there who can play one role - and that is to hold it up. He isn't fast or efficient enough to utilise the ball in a passing side. He isn't fast enough to stretch defences when the play is mainly in the middle third. He can't play as a box goalscorer. He can't run the channels due to his lack of pace. His literal one and only job that he can perform for the team is a centre forward who holds it up and links play. He will be with us for a few years I think. He will score maybe 10 a year and he'll probably go down a 'legend' or whatever. He will have a decent career with us. He will never be outstanding. He won't get us promoted. He won't ever come anywhere close to playing in the Premier League for another team. Just an average Championship striker - one of those players the fans like because he ran about a lot and did some nice touches but largely was ineffective - while on the odd occasion he caused some decent teams problems with his height. Wow. So much crap in there its nigh on impossible to answer. Will do though, when I have time, cos it needs it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Most wud rather comment on JTO and Ian than newho tbh I bet it's not them saddos who get accused of derailing the thread That is because JTO is an obsessive who makes post after post about nuhiu. We have all made our point about him yet the same posters boorishly carry on expounding their drivel.Just because someone writes an essay, it doesn't make their post any more relevant or remotely worth replying to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Nuhiu can't run, yet he sprinted past a defender and put in a cracking cross against Forest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) Compare him to every other clubs best player jon..then you name best 6 offa the top of your head? Edited September 3, 2014 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JonTheOwl66 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Wow. So much crap in there its nigh on impossible to answer. Will do though, when I have time, cos it needs it. I'm going to be very interested to see your response because having read through my post again it all perfectly describes the guy - there's no facts and figures to prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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