Dan™ Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Realllllllllllly trying not to say I told you so about Kirkland, he is a great shot stopper but couldn't organise the back 4 or command. In Westwood we have the real deal. Sorry I have held off for weeks...... What a strange post. The fact that Westwood has been excellent this season doesn't give any kind of credence to the thinking that Kirkland isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidc77 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Why is it strange? I have said from minute one of him being here that he wasn't good enough at commanding his area and organising the back 4! his shot stopping is second to none, as was Lee grants but he was the same when they played our defence isn't has confident. As I said Westwood is a completely different class, he has the lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Westwood is one of the most confident players I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Westwood is top class, but also strikes me as a lucky keeper. No problem with that. He still frustrates me at times, as he is rooted in the 6 yard box when long balls are played through. At this rate, Lees and Westwood will have to have a scrap at half time during the last game, to decide Player of the Season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan™ Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Why is it strange? I have said from minute one of him being here that he wasn't good enough at commanding his area and organising the back 4! his shot stopping is second to none, as was Lee grants but he was the same when they played our defence isn't has confident. As I said Westwood is a completely different class, he has the lot Because anything that happened today has precisely zero reflection on Kirkland's ability, so if you've apparently been holding off your "told you so" post for so long it's a bit confusing that you chose today to release it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 He's obviously catholic judging by the way he thumps his crossbar then does the sign of the cross on his chest before defending a corner. He was immense today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Because anything that happened today has precisely zero reflection on Kirkland's ability, so if you've apparently been holding off your "told you so" post for so long it's a bit confusing that you chose today to release it. I can see his point. Don't know how much about the improved defense is due to keeper organising better, or just better defenders (Lees). I'd imagine it does have an effect though for sure, and we weren't to know that until seeing Westwood now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidc77 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The reason I held off until now was I didn't want to be negative against Kirkland in other threads and this was about how good Westwood is. I commented very consistently regarding my concerns on Kirkland for a very long time, Westwood as come and shown exactly what a confident keeper gives the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyte_owl Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Best keeper since Pressman FACT. Must be right then if you say it's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The reason I held off until now was I didn't want to be negative against Kirkland in other threads and this was about how good Westwood is. I commented very consistently regarding my concerns on Kirkland for a very long time, Westwood as come and shown exactly what a confident keeper gives the defence. But the problem is that the two weaknesses that Westwood has are ones that do affect the defence. He is hesitant to come off his line and does not come for crosses Funnily enough the same as Kirkland. The improvement in defence is down to everybody, we defend as a team much better but if you want to single out one player it is Lees. I agree he is the better keeper but not to the extent you suggest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefieldowl Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Kieran Westwood, wow what a keeper. Can't believe how lucky we are to have him. Still early days but best keeper we've had for years potentially. Tom lees as well.........I mean, really....... What the hell were l***s thinking ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horny owl Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Somebody must have footage of the penalty save surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Stu has made a master stroke in signing Westwood. Really surprised we managed to sign him as his wages must be quite high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 We nicked it and Westwood is far too good for this league. If the defence doesn't get it there's a great chance he will and he looks genuinely miffed if he doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Must be right then if you say it's a fact. Is he wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneTheOwl Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Bit harsh on Kirky, who has been capped for England and had a stint at Liverpool. Westwood hasn't risen to this class yet, but there are indications he just might. Its not harsh mate, I banged on for two years about all the flaws in Kirkland's game. Westwood just proves this fact. We would have been 3-0 down at Birmingham if Kirkland had been in goal. Westwood HAS risen to the class, he oozes it in his game. The problem for Kirkland was/is that he was out of the game for too long and lost a lot of what he had as a younger keeper. That said for backup he is ok as long as we don't concede free-kicks from less than 35 yards away and the opposition don't put crosses into the box or shoot at ground level. And don't forget how many other 1 cap wonders there were for England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themaskedowl Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Is he wrong?Nope. Everyone should know that in accordance with the OT amendments to the Marquis of Queensbury rules the first one to use "FACT!" in their post wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benitocarbonara Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 lets not discredit kirky as for 2 seasons he kept us in games but westwood seem organise more and thats what the keeper should do be the puppet master for the defence and especially as our back 4 is not the most vocal we IMO miss leaders which westwood seems to give us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Westwood is a better keeper than pressman...if he can play as many games as pressman he will become a legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Every time the ground errupts for the hi ho sheff wed he puts his hands in the air and looks up . quality keeper cant see us keeping him long if he keeps this form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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