Yorkowl.74 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I’m yet to be convinced about beadle. The fifth goal that went in yesterday was an awful goalkeeping error even for league one. You just push the shot to the side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleOwl Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, SiJ said: The Dawson hate reached such a point that he was literally criticised for every single goal we conceded. We had people drawing lines on still images to show where they thought he should have stood. It would be quite funny if it wasn't so mental. It was mental, and when I made the (quite reasonable IMO) point that maybe, as a professional who has been doing this day in, day out for the last 10 odd years, he knows a bit more about how to perform one of the most fundamental principles of his job, it just got laughed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
island owl Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Dont think Dawson would have saved any of those either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 The criticism which Dawson received was as ridiculous as it was unfair Pages of freeze frames trying to show how he was at fault for just about every goal There was no reasoning with some of them no matter how absurd they were being Comparatively there is an almost total absence of scrutiny of the goals Beadle concedes I said then that if Dawson was half as bad at the technicalities of goalkeeping then he'd never have made it to pro level 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSandersonOWL Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 19 hours ago, BIG D said: Christ Not a good choice in goal, he would suffer on the crosses and Easter is coming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, scram said: The criticism which Dawson received was as ridiculous as it was unfair Pages of freeze frames trying to show how he was at fault for just about every goal There was no reasoning with some of them no matter how absurd they were being Comparatively there is an almost total absence of scrutiny of the goals Beadle concedes I said then that if Dawson was half as bad at the technicalities of goalkeeping then he'd never have made it to pro level I think some fans (quite a few) either just make their minds up on a player, or just read/listen to other fans criticism of a player and that's that - after that point their mind is made up and they won't budge from it no matter what. It's really sad 3 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 43 minutes ago, scram said: The criticism which Dawson received was as ridiculous as it was unfair Pages of freeze frames trying to show how he was at fault for just about every goal There was no reasoning with some of them no matter how absurd they were being Comparatively there is an almost total absence of scrutiny of the goals Beadle concedes I said then that if Dawson was half as bad at the technicalities of goalkeeping then he'd never have made it to pro level It's been one of the weirdest Owlstalk subplots of this season. The threads of freezeframes pointing out where Dawson should have stood at each millisecond of the buildup to a goal were my favourites. Absolutely barking. And as you say, now that Beadle is conceding similar goals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Dawson is no better than Beadle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexpistol Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, island owl said: Dont think Dawson would have saved any of those either ‘Subjective’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, scram said: The criticism which Dawson received was as ridiculous as it was unfair Pages of freeze frames trying to show how he was at fault for just about every goal There was no reasoning with some of them no matter how absurd they were being It was the whole Darren Moore thing all over again, only the target was different. Some people had their minds made up about him, and that was that. It only remained to look at every goal we conceded and then work backwards to find a way of pinning the blame on Dawson. The lengths to which people went in order to do so were gobsmacking. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: It's been one of the weirdest Owlstalk subplots of this season. The threads of freezeframes pointing out where Dawson should have stood at each millisecond of the buildup to a goal were my favourites. Absolutely barking. And as you say, now that Beadle is conceding similar goals... One of my favourite was when he was blamed for being poorly positioned when he took a sideways step because he had become unsighted First rule of goalkeeping; Make sure you can't see the ball... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Maple Staple Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 21 hours ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: I'd take him. He'd be decent on crosses, nailed on. and back by Easter Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddle93 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: Dawson is no better than Beadle. I think there quite similar hence why I'd stick with Beadle now and get new in summer buy Beadle hasn't been any improvement on Dawson that much is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dukeries Owl Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Statistics even tell you that Beadle stops a higher percentage of shots than Dawson. but hey, let's not let facts get in the way of the bedwetters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBMitchell Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I don't think swapping keepers is right with a few games to go, but obviously everyone has an opinion. I don't think Beadle has let in any howlers as such, there's a few he should have gone better on. I am not a fan of Dawson, for no other reason that he has let us down many times before, and doesn't seem to have dramatically reduced his clangers in that period. As for Beadle, I didn't see the fifth as I'd had enough yesterday, but it sounds like a weak wristed parry, and not good keeping. The issue I see is that if Dawson comes in and has a few howlers, then he'd get the blame for us going down rather than the real reasons I do think some of the stick he got was a bit harsh and I did say that at the time, but equally we have fans who have sat and waited for Beadle to have a bad game to pile on as it shows in this thread. Since Huddersfield upto yesterday Beadle has been one of the best performers especially at poo stopping. People go on about his kicking, but when we have midfielders and defenders that can't pass the ball five yards correctly,then why do we expect either of them to ping it 60 yards perfectly and complain when it goes out of play I've tried to think about it all, and despite my moody outburst last night, I wanted to comment on this after a bit of reflection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 12 minutes ago, The Dukeries Owl said: Statistics even tell you that Beadle stops a higher percentage of shots than Dawson. but hey, let's not let facts get in the way of the bedwetters. Lies Damn lies Statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcckyn Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 22 hours ago, WimJunk said: I don't wish Beadle any ill will, but it's the only chance we have... This is a bit like saying we should start fletcher over Ugbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WimJunk Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, tcckyn said: This is a bit like saying we should start fletcher over Ugbo It's nothing like that, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Oh my word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneeyedmilkman Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 I'm not sure of beadles save to shot ratio since joining us, and I can't seem to find dawsons, but I'm pretty sure he was the worst in the championship this season? He let in more goals than he should have. Added to that, I also think that beadle plays the short passing game better than dawson, which is clearly what were trying to do to beat the press. Beadle needs to work on his long ball, but that's not the aim of our play. Dawson needs to leave at the end of the season because you'll never get the whole fan base for or against him. Some defend him stoutly for being one of our own, and some criticise every thing he does because of it. Like wildsmith, he needs to move on. Personally, like wildsmith, I don't think he gets a move 'up' from wednesday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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