Rogers Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp has told any supporter "not in the right shape" for Saturday's top-of-the-table Premier League encounter with leaders Arsenal to give their ticket to someone else. Klopp - whose side are a point behind the Gunners - criticised the Anfield atmosphere during Wednesday's 5-1 Carabao Cup quarter-final win over West Ham. The Reds galloped to their joint-biggest win of the season to book a two-legged last-four encounter with Fulham. Yet, despite goals for his side from Dominik Szoboszlai, Cody Gakpo, Mohamed Salah and Curtis Jones, who scored twice, Klopp felt the atmosphere inside the stadium was flat. That was even though it was just the second time there were 57,000 present after the opening of the upper tier of the Anfield Road Stand. After Sunday's goalless draw with Manchester United, television pundit Gary Neville said: "The atmosphere was the worst I've seen at Anfield ever. "I've always been complimentary of Liverpool fans. It's the biggest crowd they've had here in 60 or 70 years but it's the quietest crowd I've seen in this game." And Klopp was no more complimentary after the win over West Ham. "In the first half, when the boys played exceptionally, I was not overly happy with the atmosphere behind me," he said. "I asked people: 'What do they want?' We changed a lot of things and we dominated West Ham like crazy and missed chances. If I was in the stands, I would be on my toes, 1,000%. "I don't know if the Man United game was that bad that we have to say sorry we didn't smash them?" Are they too many tourist fans at Liverpool, Man Utd and Chelsea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 He’s right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 If they’ve made it bigger then those tickets will be taken up by non regulars so the atmosphere will be worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 It was saying on the radio this morning that fans are complaining about high ticket prices and the number of games being played at the moment making it unaffordable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, darra said: It was saying on the radio this morning that fans are complaining about high ticket prices and the number of games being played at the moment making it unaffordable. Well, that's the price of being a modern day footballing powerhouse. Not saying it's right, but that's what Liverpool are these days. As for Klopp, he's probably one of the few managers who can get away with that. Truth is that the Anfield atmosphere is a bit of a myth. Tremendous for European nights and other big games, flat as a pancake for most other matches. Reason it was flat on Sunday is because they expected to win comfortably. Last night...well, it's West Ham in the quarter final of the cup isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 He's such a nasty piece of work, I'm not sure this will go down well with fans. Even if he has a point about the atmosphere, there can be many mitigating factors. At least they are coming through the door. Football has always been somewhere where you can forget your troubles for a couple of hours, but maybe the struggles of your average working class fan now just can't be wiped out leading to a more subdued atmosphere. Just such a negative take from Klopp, he could have been encouraging rather than critical, but that's not his style. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted December 21, 2023 Author Share Posted December 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, darra said: It was saying on the radio this morning that fans are complaining about high ticket prices and the number of games being played at the moment making it unaffordable. I’m sure the tourists will buy them for the one off experience 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Working class fan! lol. They're tourists wearing half and half scarves and filming opposition corners. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Arthur Bach said: Working class fan! lol. They're tourists wearing half and half scarves and filming opposition corners. Yep selling many less s/t than they could sell cos they want the tourists spending money on their day out in the 3 storey megastore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeyswfc Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Now the grounds bigger they could probably do with doing what Real Madrid do and have a section just for the actual fans to create an atmosphere. It’ll be loaded with tourists now. Plus football is expensive, life is expensive and it’s Christmas. Not surprising people are giving it a miss. How much was a ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsandwich Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, lukeyswfc said: Now the grounds bigger they could probably do with doing what Real Madrid do and have a section just for the actual fans to create an atmosphere. I'd imagine that's already their famous Kop end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamsandwich Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Corporates init. It did for the atmosphere at ManU and it'll do the same for the atmosphere at Anfield. Foreign business men paying 2grand a ticket aren't going to be belting out Freddie and the Dreamers hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridportOwl Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I am going to stick these comments in the same box as managers of top clubs complaining about fixtures whilst also jetting off to the other side of the world to play a gruelling pre-season tournament just make even more money. You reap what you sow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I really dislike the guy as much as I dislike Wilder and Warnock tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I like Klopp Teams play good high intensity football - good for a soundbite "Gets" English football culture OK, he can be a bit of a sourpuss but what successful manager isn't Don't shoot me... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 hours ago, jamsandwich said: Corporates init. It did for the atmosphere at ManU and it'll do the same for the atmosphere at Anfield. Foreign business men paying 2grand a ticket aren't going to be belting out Freddie and the Dreamers hits Or Gerry and the Pacemakers.................................................they made it famous. I've forgot who originally did "Never Walk Alone" Prefer "Ferry Across the Mersey" myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, edmontonowl said: Or Gerry and the Pacemakers.................................................they made it famous. I've forgot who originally did "Never Walk Alone" Prefer "Ferry Across the Mersey" myself I think Celtic sang it first. Dortmund sing it too. It's no more unique to Liverpool than high ho is to Wednesday, but the Scousers have smartly managed to lay ownership to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_vinyl_frontier Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Annfield always comes across so so quiet on tv. when they sing that dull song about not walking again, the tv goes on mute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SiJ said: I think Celtic sang it first. Dortmund sing it too. It's no more unique to Liverpool than high ho is to Wednesday, but the Scousers have smartly managed to lay ownership to it. There is always the debate about who adopted the song first I believe its originally from a musical but undoubtedly hugely popularised by Gerry and Co It seems to make more sense that the song was adopted by a scouse team from a scouse band than a bunch of other fans found it from some obscure musical tbh But not a hill id be prepared to die on... Edited December 21, 2023 by scram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, scram said: There is always the debate about who adopted the song first I believe its originally from a musical but undoubtedly hugely popularised by Gerry and Co It seems to make more sense that the song was adopted by a scouse team from a scouse band than a bunch of other fans found it from some obscure musical tbh But not a hill id be prepared to die on... You'll Never Walk Alone was not Marsden's song – it started life as a show tune from the 1945 Rodgers and Hammerstein musical Carousel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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