Dooogs Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: His agent is irrelevant No agent could have done away with Shaw if he'd been tied down with a contract It's a fair question, I think. The one valid defence for DC us if he's been trying to tie down Shaw and Urhoghide for the last 12 months and they've rejected a decent contract offer. I'd be verrrry surprised if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Dooogs said: It's a fair question, I think. The one valid defence for DC us if he's been trying to tie down Shaw and Urhoghide for the last 12 months and they've rejected a decent contract offer. I'd be verrrry surprised if that's the case. If DC has been trying to tie players down for the last 12 months and they're not interested then that speaks volumes about the club, it's ambition, it's overall management and it's predicament 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooogs Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: If DC has been trying to tie players down for the last 12 months and they're not interested then that speaks volumes about the club, it's ambition, it's overall management and it's predicament It does - and if that's the case (that they were offered contracts earlier) then I suspect we would have heard from DC already.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: His agent is irrelevant No agent could have done away with Shaw if he'd been tied down with a contract So we will never know. Agents sadly are not irrelevant in football, they are in it to make money ,simple as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Asio otus said: So we will never know. Agents sadly are not irrelevant in football, they are in it to make money ,simple as. Can't make money from nicking our players if our players are tied into contracts Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: If DC has been trying to tie players down for the last 12 months and they're not interested then that speaks volumes about the club, it's ambition, it's overall management and it's predicament Money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Can't make money from nicking our players if our players are tied into contracts So what contract was he offered , as I say we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Asio otus said: So what contract was he offered , as I say we will never know. It literally doesn't matter though does it Agents can't nick players and steal em away if they're under contract Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, @owlstalk said: It literally doesn't matter though does it Agents can't nick players and steal em away if they're under contract I never said nick players, but they can tout players around to get the best deals. They advise their clients and obviously want the best deal that gives them the best return. We dont know if he was advised to turn down the contract or what the contract was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Also the game today now is 80% business and 20% football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 18, 2021 Author Share Posted February 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Asio otus said: I never said nick players, but they can tout players around to get the best deals. They advise their clients and obviously want the best deal that gives them the best return. We dont know if he was advised to turn down the contract or what the contract was. My point is he should have already been under at /in a contract Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 fair play to shaw ,he wasnt going to sign some derisory offer from the club and backed himself to get a better deal elsewhere and it seems he as ......would be interesting to see how the agents who have concocted the deal divi up who gets a cut though i suspect we'll never know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie’s Left Peg Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 11 hours ago, SallyCinnamon said: Somehow managed to blame Pulis for this? Perhaps our chairman shouldn’t have tried to ruin his reputation in public. Come on Sal. I normally enjoy your posts but this is misleading. No ones blaming Pulis. Just pointing out what a self serving, opportunistic dinosaur he is. Perhaps if he’d spent more time coaching the team and less time on the phone, our results might’ve been better. Although, given his negative, one-dimensional approach, perhaps not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Have you ever looked into the history of Factory Records and what happened with The Happy Mondays though? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lawrie’s Left Peg said: Come on Sal. I normally enjoy your posts but this is misleading. No ones blaming Pulis. Just pointing out what a self serving, opportunistic dinosaur he is. Perhaps if he’d spent more time coaching the team and less time on the phone, our results might’ve been better. Although, given his negative, one-dimensional approach, perhaps not But it’s a fantastic way of getting your own back on a man who sacked you after 10 games and then proceeded to pull you apart in a no holds barred media briefing where he didn’t have the opportunity to defend himself? I don’t know for sure that Pulis told Celtic to sign Shaw. But given who there head of scouting is and who our assistant manager under Pulis was - it’s really plausible. Chansiri left us wide open to that if it’s the case. Edited February 18, 2021 by SallyCinnamon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 hours ago, owlsruleok said: True and they are ranked the same big fish in little ponds. Last time I looked Celtic averaged 57,000 at home and Rangers 49,000. If they were in the Premier they could sell ungodly amounts ( both grounds have expansion plans ) of tickets and be Champion League contenders every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: But it’s a fantastic way of getting your own back on a man who sacked you after 10 games and then proceeded to pull you apart in a no holds barred media briefing where he didn’t have the opportunity to defend himself? I don’t know for sure that Pulis told Celtic to sign Shaw. But given who there head of scouting is and who our assistant manager under Pulis was - it’s really plausible. Chansiri left us wide open to that if it’s the case. Pulis was sacked yes, but if rumours were true he had handed in his notice beforehand! Pulis has taken the ******** out of us all along DC was naive some would say stupid for the decisions he’s made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton_Swfc Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Not seen if already posted .. but has TP got any connections to Lennon? Wouldn't surprise me if he gave him the nudge to go and sign him to spite DC. Wouldn't blame him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Think the agents has had everyone's pants down, he knows he has a good player on his hands so what's the point of tying the player down to a long contract when there is a good to fair chance bigger fish will come calling. No brainer for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlerIT Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eaton_Swfc said: Not seen if already posted .. but has TP got any connections to Lennon? Wouldn't surprise me if he gave him the nudge to go and sign him to spite DC. Wouldn't blame him Doubt it but the pig Trusson has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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