markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Ellis Rimmer said: I am more inclined to go with what she says than Demba Ba. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, markowl said: Why? Because she is a writer, writing for a respectable newspaper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Because she is a writer, writing for a respectable newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dore Owl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 We all cringe when the old bloke in our office refers to someone as the black one on so and so’s team. It’s just massively ignorant and so out of touch with how the majority of people would want to be referred to in his day and age. Baffles me how out of touch with this some people are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Because she is a writer, writing for a respectable newspaper. What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, markowl said: Why? Think probably because Demba Ba has more to gain by being expedient with the truth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, SiJ said: What does that even mean? Obviously everyone is entitled to an opinion but I take the word of the writer for the independent writing a full article and the reasons why she has that opinion over a highly charged incident of a footballer making their point on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Think probably because Demba Ba has more to gain by being expedient with the truth? Again the question would be why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem Poric Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Neil should keep a list of users who are consistently racist/bigoted and then every time they post have a flag (like Twitter did with Trump's election win claims) to state that this poster has been openly racist in the past and may have been racist in this post. Or he could just ban the racists but we all know he likes having a few on the site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 46 minutes ago, Dore Owl said: We all cringe when the old bloke in our office refers to someone as the black one on so and so’s team. It’s just massively ignorant and so out of touch with how the majority of people would want to be referred to in his day and age. Baffles me how out of touch with this some people are. I think it's a situation by situation call. If there are a group of people and you need to identify someone then their colour is a good identifier. I think you're conflating this in your example which seems like the needless use of mentioning their skin colour which is what happens frequently at my work "the last person I saw said this...the Chinese/Polish one" it's irrelevant to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I think it's a situation by situation call. If there are a group of people and you need to identify someone then their colour is a good identifier. I think you're conflating this in your example which seems like the needless use of mentioning their skin colour which is what happens frequently at my work "the last person I saw said this...the Chinese/Polish one" it's irrelevant to say that. Why would he use skin colour when there was more than one black person on the bench? And are we still saying a UEFA Official doesn't know the name of the Assistant Head Coach of one of the teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, markowl said: Why would he use skin colour when there was more than one black person on the bench? And are we still saying a UEFA Official doesn't know the name of the Assistant Head Coach of one of the teams? I presume most were not black on the bench. Would be quite weird if they were mainly black, I would then agree that is needless use of the skin colour. I don't think there is any necessity to learn who all the players and coaches are. If that were the case why do the players need numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I presume most were not black on the bench. Would be quite weird if they were mainly black, I would then agree that is needless use of the skin colour. I don't think there is any necessity to learn who all the players and coaches are. If that were the case why do the players need numbers? Honestly! Do you stop and think before you type? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 @Ellis Rimmer is Ryan Baldwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, markowl said: @Ellis Rimmer is Ryan Baldwin If it's their job to learn all the players and coaches names and by that I mean that is literally protocol that they should know the player and coaches names then they should be reprimanded for not doing their job properly. I would have no issue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Dore Owl said: We all cringe when the old bloke in our office refers to someone as the black one on so and so’s team. It’s just massively ignorant and so out of touch with how the majority of people would want to be referred to in his day and age. Baffles me how out of touch with this some people are. It's how the old bloke was brought up ....eusebio was always known as la perla negra, george Headley was the black bradman though his countrymen thought bradman was the white Headley. Viv anderson will always be known as the 1st black england player..no doubt you'll say summat in 40 years time that is perfectly acceptable now that will make young people cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just popped back to see if racism is still be defended by the usual suspect (s). Yep. Two sets of players walked off the pitch, in a Champions League game. But @Ellis Rimmer thinks the 4th official didn't do anything wrong . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, sonofbert2 said: Is Stan still out dogging? Does he remember their names? Bet he remembers Ulrika. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said: Is Stan still out dogging? Does he remember their names? Bet he remembers Ulrika. Not sure what that has to do with racism, but I did think when @sonofbert2posted that link, how long before someone slags Stan Collymore off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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