markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: I don't think they would know who all the players and coaches are at all so if they need to identify someone what is the matter with the skin colour as an identifier? Is it offensive? If the guy had ginger hair would it be offensive to refer to that? You don't think officials know the names? Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fairy Tail Owl said: so we are all fluent in Romanian here and are certain he didn't say anything else? black coat? black mask? Just a quick Google, and the word for black is different when describing a coat or mask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy Tail Owl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, markowl said: You don't think officials know the names? Are you serious? Wow you think they do? officials know all the players and staffs names!? reffing 2 foreign clubs, a ref is gonna be able to put a name to the face of every player and staff?!? no chance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Fairy Tail Owl said: Wow you think they do? officials know all the players and staffs names!? reffing 2 foreign clubs, a ref is gonna be able to put a name to the face of every player and staff?!? no chance It's not the Dog and Duck versus The Red Lion. It's a Champions League game. The officials are professionals, of course they will know who they are. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, markowl said: It's not the Dog and Duck versus The Red Lion. It's a Champions League game. The officials are professionals, of course they will know who they are. Not a chance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: Not a chance Ok. Let's suppose you're right. What if the Assistant Coach was white. How would the Fourth Official describe him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, markowl said: Ok. Let's suppose you're right. What if the Assistant Coach was white. How would the Fourth Official describe him? If he was the only white guy in the vicinity surely as that white guy. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 9 hours ago, i used to be sc_owl said: You just don’t refer to someone by their skin colour. Jesus christ, thank God nobody asked me who man of match was on Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Here we go again. Another debate on racism, same posters defending it. You DO NOT refer to a person by their skin colour. The fourth official would not say ' the white one' . He is woefully ignorant of the connotations of reducing a person to their skin colour. This is racism . The fact that some posters are clearly clueless about what racism is , is not surprising . There are non so blind as those who do not want to see. On another note, great to see the racist Millwall supporters check mated tonight by the club and players. They had to applaud the gestures made by their own players otherwise their ' Marxist organisation' excuse for booing would be dead in the water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The usual ignorance from the usual suspects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I am surprised the 4th official put himself in that situation with the current sensitivities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bannofan said: Here we go again. Another debate on racism, same posters defending it. You DO NOT refer to a person by their skin colour. The fourth official would not say ' the white one' . He is woefully ignorant of the connotations of reducing a person to their skin colour. This is racism . The fact that some posters are clearly clueless about what racism is , is not surprising . There are non so blind as those who do not want to see. On another note, great to see the racist Millwall supporters check mated tonight by the club and players. They had to applaud the gestures made by their own players otherwise their ' Marxist organisation' excuse for booing would be dead in the water. If he was the only white guy in the area of course he would. If he has simply said the black guy how is that possibly offensive? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: I am surprised the 4th official put himself in that situation with the current sensitivities. Agreed but I don't think theres the same issue in Romanian football but he did lack awareness clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, coopswfc76 said: If he was the only white guy in the area of course he would. Absolute horseshít 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, coopswfc76 said: If he was the only white guy in the area of course he would. If he has simply said the black guy how is that possibly offensive? No he wouldn't, he would have said ' third coach along', or referred to him by name. Demba Ba in the video clip explains to the 4th official why it's offensive. At least three people in this thread have explained why referring to someone as ' the black one' is offensive. If you don't care, you don't care ...but it is racism, pure and simple ...to reduce someone to their skin colour . In an officiating set up like it this it also throws doubt on the officials impartiality . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Bannofan said: No he wouldn't, he would have said ' third coach along', or referred to him by name. Demba Ba in the video clip explains to the 4th official why it's offensive. At least three people in this thread have explained why referring to someone as ' the black one' is offensive. If you don't care, you don't care ...but it is racism, pure and simple ...to reduce someone to their skin colour . In an officiating set up like it this it also throws doubt on the officials impartiality . So if it was 7 black guys and 1 white you think the referee would count how far along he was rather than just say the white guy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, markowl said: Absolute horseshít Thanks for the debate I find that offensive to bullshit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, coopswfc76 said: Thanks for the debate I find that offensive to bullshit. No problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, coopswfc76 said: So if it was 7 black guys and 1 white you think the referee would count how far along he was rather than just say the white guy? Yes, or use his name . If he didn't know his name he would ask him. Go on, keep defending racism, I'm interested in how many excuses you are going to come out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I'm still laughing at the thought of professional officials in the Champions League not knowing the Assistant Coach's name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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