coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Got a feeling this thread will get pulled soon. Think they should warn 4th official about using that term, probably didn't mean any offence in the heat of the moment. If he does it again then remove him from the officials list. And no issue with that but some are just assuming hes racist without accepting different issues in Romania, funnily enough the same posters who try to explain differences when it suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 If you were at work in a shop or a pub or any customer-facing job, and you had a few customers waiting to be served including one who was black (or old, or disabled) and your colleague came to help you and asked who was next, you wouldn’t go “it’s the black/old/disabled one” would you? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, coopswfc76 said: And no issue with that but some are just assuming hes racist without accepting different issues in Romania, funnily enough the same posters who try to explain differences when it suits. Why should Romania have "different issues"? What are these different issues you speak of? It's funny how this Romanian seems to be getting sympathy, but any mention of the Romanian immigrants in Page Hall, the sympathy for their different issues seems to disappear.... Edited December 9, 2020 by markowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, coopswfc76 said: Where and when have I defended racism??? This whole thread, it's the whole basis of your argument, you are making excuses for the 4th officials racism. As for growing up and ' putting the tissues' away ..I take that as a dig that because I get angry about casual and outright racism, I'm over sensitive ?. Well I'm not going to change, as long as there are posters and people like you and Ellis Rimmer in this word, so get used to your uneducated view points being challenged whenever I see them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, beswetherick said: If you were at work in a shop or a pub or any customer-facing job, and you had a few customers waiting to be served including one who was black (or old, or disabled) and your colleague came to help you and asked who was next, you wouldn’t go “it’s the black/old/disabled one” would you? What if there was a blond and a dark haired customer? Would it be ok to say "the blond guy is next" ? If there were several black people waiting and one white guy. Would it be ok to say "the white chap is next" ? The guy with the beard is next and the chap with the hat is next and the bloke wearing a dress is after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, beswetherick said: If you were at work in a shop or a pub or any customer-facing job, and you had a few customers waiting to be served including one who was black (or old, or disabled) and your colleague came to help you and asked who was next, you wouldn’t go “it’s the black/old/disabled one” would you? Yes of course you would, theres no wonder crimes seem to be going thru the roof if you can't use a person's characteristics to describe the offender. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, markowl said: Why should Romania have "different issues"? What are these different issues you speak of? It's funny how this Romanian seems to be getting sympathy, but any mention of the Romanian immigrants in Page Hall, the sympathy for their different issues seems to disappear.... I rest my cause my lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: If there were several black people waiting and one white guy. Would it be ok to say "the white chap is next" ? According to some on here yes. In fact one poster would say "the brown person is next". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bannofan said: This whole thread, it's the whole basis of your argument, you are making excuses for the 4th officials racism. As for growing up and ' putting the tissues' away ..I take that as a dig that because I get angry about casual and outright racism, I'm over sensitive ?. Well I'm not going to change, as long as there are posters and people like you and Ellis Rimmer in this word, so get used to your uneducated view points being challenged whenever I see them. Uneducated view points nobody in this thread has defended racism what bits hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, coopswfc76 said: I rest my cause my lord. Thanks for the debate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, coopswfc76 said: Uneducated view points nobody in this thread has defended racism what bits hard to understand. What are the different issues in Romania that you mentioned earlier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, OxonOwl said: What if there was a blond and a dark haired customer? Would it be ok to say "the blond guy is next" ? If there were several black people waiting and one white guy. Would it be ok to say "the white chap is next" ? The guy with the beard is next and the chap with the hat is next and the bloke wearing a dress is after that. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would say yes but in today's world apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bannofan said: This whole thread, it's the whole basis of your argument, you are making excuses for the 4th officials racism. As for growing up and ' putting the tissues' away ..I take that as a dig that because I get angry about casual and outright racism, I'm over sensitive ?. Well I'm not going to change, as long as there are posters and people like you and Ellis Rimmer in this word, so get used to your uneducated view points being challenged whenever I see them. Did you read the link? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannofan Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, coopswfc76 said: Uneducated view points nobody in this thread has defended racism what bits hard to understand. Right, that's me done. I've done my bit and called you out, you can't defend your viewpoint and now your lying about defending racism so there isn't much point continuing in this thread. I'll see you in the next thread where you show your complete ignorance on the subject. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Even if you didn't know the name of the individual, wouldn't you just point at them or go over to them to point them out? You know, as opposed to saying "the black one." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, markowl said: What are the different issues in Romania that you mentioned earlier? No time I'm busy now got to do some work before painting some walls a non specific colour as don't wish to offend you or bannofan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, beswetherick said: If you were at work in a shop or a pub or any customer-facing job, and you had a few customers waiting to be served including one who was black (or old, or disabled) and your colleague came to help you and asked who was next, you wouldn’t go “it’s the black/old/disabled one” would you? It's not service though is it? Different ways of speaking in different situations If it was a police incident for example skin colour would be absolutely necessary to describe somebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Bannofan said: Right, that's me done. I've done my bit and called you out, you can't defend your viewpoint and now your lying about defending racism so there isn't much point continuing in this thread. I'll see you in the next thread where you show your complete ignorance on the subject. Ok last post. Only person lying us you but I'm not surprised at that tbh. I've never defended racism but keep trying to be superior by throwing the racist card about, well done you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, coopswfc76 said: No time I'm busy now got to do some work before painting some walls a non specific colour as don't wish to offend you or bannofan. Fair enough. Paint colour and skin colour are entirely analogous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Ellis Rimmer said: It's not service though is it? Different ways of speaking in different situations If it was a police incident for example skin colour would be absolutely necessary to describe somebody Err. It wasn't a police incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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