markg Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, WalthamOwl said: These games really are a waste of time. Should put all the crap teams in a league of their own. Such a mismatch. League one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Whitechapel Owl said: Wasn't that just the Euros? I think there are 2. There’s some coming in from the nations league again I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 Job done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, owls maniac said: San Marino has a population that you could fit inside Hillsborough. They are never going to come even close to qualifying. How can you justify the environmental impact of the entire England entourage flying to places like Andorra and San Marino for games so utterly pointless? From a development perspective they will have learnt nothing tonight. There needs to be a special league for these micro nations to compete in. How many of these micro nations are there? Who do you class as a micro nation? I can think of about 5. That’s not enough for them to go and do their own thing. And what would be the end goal of this micro competition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Are there two rounds of playoffs now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: How many of these micro nations are there? Who do you class as a micro nation? I can think of about 5. That’s not enough for them to go and do their own thing. And what would be the end goal of this micro competition? They could have a league that takes place alongside European qualifying with the likes of Andorra, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar and even Jersey. They won't ever improve playing against nations who have 85% possession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: How many of these micro nations are there? Who do you class as a micro nation? I can think of about 5. That’s not enough for them to go and do their own thing. And what would be the end goal of this micro competition? Shall we say any country with a population of less than 100,000? Well for a start they could actually get over the halfway line, attack the opposition and maybe even score. Their players aren’t learning anything from just being waltzed past like dummies and conceding 10 goals. The games have zero sporting credibility and fans are being asked to shell out on flights and hotels for games against sides who would struggle against Maltby Miners. It’s a farce. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Beighton Owl 87 said: They could have a league that takes place alongside European qualifying with the likes of Andorra, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar and even Jersey. They won't ever improve playing against nations who have 85% possession. They’re never going to improve to the level they give England a game, so that argument is redundant imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, edinburghowl said: Possibly in the final qualifier? I think there are 2 fixtures are there not? 25 minutes ago, Whitechapel Owl said: Wasn't that just the Euros? There is a semi final and final. 12 teams in play offs competing for last 3 spots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Since 1987 San Marino have played 185 games and won……1 It is a total waste of time for all concerned for them to be playing teams from countries with 50-100 times their population. This isn’t a dig at San Marino, it’s just common sense and sporting integrity. And it’s particularly absurd when we should be looking to reduce pointless air travel. Edited November 15, 2021 by owls maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Also Italy failed to automatically qualify. So frustrating we didn’t finish them off in the first half of that final. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, owls maniac said: Since 1987 San Marino have played 185 games and won……1 It is a total waste of time for all concerned for them to be playing teams from countries with 50-100 times their population. This isn’t a dig at San Marino, it’s just common sense and sporting integrity. And it’s particularly absurd when we should be looking to reduce pointless air travel. They’ve got a worse record of coming from behind to win a game than Wednesday 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, owls maniac said: Shall we say any country with a population of less than 100,000? Well for a start they could actually get over the halfway line, attack the opposition and maybe even score. Their players aren’t learning anything from just being waltzed past like dummies and conceding 10 goals. The games have zero sporting credibility and fans are being asked to shell out on flights and hotels for games against sides who would struggle against Maltby Miners. It’s a farce. But if we create a mini league of the worlds smallest nations, what about the air miles and environmental impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, Beighton Owl 87 said: They could have a league that takes place alongside European qualifying with the likes of Andorra, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar and even Jersey. They won't ever improve playing against nations who have 85% possession. What’s the point of that? What do they qualify for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 They are also literally in a mini league in the Nations League. Gibraltar, San Marino and Liechtenstein all in the same group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 minute ago, SallyCinnamon said: They are also literally in a mini league in the Nations League. Gibraltar, San Marino and Liechtenstein all in the same group Might as well do the same for the Euros tbh, along with Andorra and the Faroe Islands. I think they all have a population that would easily fit inside Wembley. Winner of their group makes it to the play offs. They’d probably get beaten at that point every time, but at least they’d have a few more competitive games. Putting them in with the big boys is just a waste of time for everyone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls maniac Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: But if we create a mini league of the worlds smallest nations, what about the air miles and environmental impact? Make them get the train But I dare say the entourage and supporters following San Marino to Andorra will be a fraction of that from countries like England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Utterly pointless these games. I think qualifying should be shortened and have unseeded nations have to do a pre-qualifying competition (a bit like the FA Cup) before they then join the main qualification. For example, August - Feb is a pre-qualifying competition with the lowest ranked nations. March to November / December is the main qualification in groups of four (each team playing six games) and do a similar format with winners qualifying automatically and runners up into a playoff. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Rimmer Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 9 hours ago, Beighton Owl 87 said: There is a semi final and final. 12 teams in play offs competing for last 3 spots. could Italy and Portugal meet each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sova Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 27 minutes ago, Ellis Rimmer said: could Italy and Portugal meet each other? Yes, but not in the semifinal round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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