RichSheffWeds Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, Grandad said: Seeing so many people repeating the Chairmans idiotic statement from last week - especially in relation to who we can attract as a manager. Yes we ARE a big club. Certainly in the top 20% of ALL clubs in the UK Don't let the fact we have been run into the ground so appallingly by a series of dreadful Chairmen and boards in the last 20 years (including him) cloud your judgement. This club has massively underachieved in the 21st century. But don't for one minute let your Chairman convince you to lower your expectations of the club and what it is capable of. That would be letting him off the hook and allowing him to continue the under achievement. STOP doing his work for him and hammering home the message we arent a big club. We are one of the biggest in the country. In the age of TV money, our size and history means next to nothing unfortunately. Small clubs can survive in bottom half of premier league now for significant numbers of years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, trev said: We are about level pegging with clubs like Derby and Forest. Would you say they are big clubs? I would, yes. But the younger under 30s.....absolutely not. Commercially and in the modern world, those 2 clubs are easily above us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 We aren’t a big club. Should we reach and stay in the premier league , there is potential to become one. Having a rubbish owner and dilapidated facilities / stadium means we are light years away from that though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, FreshOwl said: Commercially and in the modern world, those 2 clubs are easily above us Not talking about revenue or turnover, talking about how the club's are seen in general by the neutral and others outside of the club's themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hornsby Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: Seeing so many people repeating the Chairmans idiotic statement from last week - especially in relation to who we can attract as a manager. Yes we ARE a big club. Certainly in the top 20% of ALL clubs in the UK Don't let the fact we have been run into the ground so appallingly by a series of dreadful Chairmen and boards in the last 20 years (including him) cloud your judgement. This club has massively underachieved in the 21st century. But don't for one minute let your Chairman convince you to lower your expectations of the club and what it is capable of. That would be letting him off the hook and allowing him to continue the under achievement. STOP doing his work for him and hammering home the message we arent a big club. We are one of the biggest in the country. And the quality of candidates will reflect that. Some good , experienced ones in frame plus up and comers like Lowe. But your right. We need someone of Bruce's stature and experience. Pearson, if fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildatheart67 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Talk Sport midday news had time to mention Vietnam Grand Prix....if, us not a peep. Chansiri interview still to come,they just plugged it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Me: We're in the top 20% of clubs in this country Owlstalk: We're nowhere near as big as Man Utd or Arsenal - therefore you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 https://www.90min.com/posts/6500129-the-50-biggest-football-clubs-in-britain-ranked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marble Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: Have a guess what any manager will say when he's in his press conference unveiling Similarly ask any manager who is asked if they'd consider the job and hear what they say too Then also listen to what every single pundit says about us The only person in football saying we're not a big club is the chairman for some bizarre reason Even more bizarre when he's about to appoint a manager and tell them we should be getting promoted this season We are a big club based on tradition, & based on support (although to be fair our average home attendances have been on the decline). If we are talking about being big financially, or big on current potential, then absolutely not...Hillsborough is a Managers graveyard, which is why someone like Chris Hughton wouldn't touch us with a barge pole the last time we were in search of a new Head Coach. Kid yourselves on if you need to, but the only tangible thing big about us at the moment is the mess we are in. Sadly our next Managerial appointment is likely to reflect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 We are and we aren’t in my opinion. Big clubs don’t spend 20+ years outside the top flight. We are a big club in Championship terms but that’s it these days I’m afraid. We have a big support, it’s our biggest asset, but stadium, facilities, squad wise we are miles away from being a big club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 We should have 56 points then. Four leagues is 32 points. Add 3 facs 47. Plus lge cup 50. Plus 6 2nd tier championships is 56. Unreliable data. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Grandad said: https://www.90min.com/posts/6500129-the-50-biggest-football-clubs-in-britain-ranked Any list that has Wimbledon and Charlton as a bigger club than Hearts is a pile of poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesdayite Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: Seeing so many people repeating the Chairmans idiotic statement from last week - especially in relation to who we can attract as a manager. Yes we ARE a big club. Certainly in the top 20% of ALL clubs in the UK Don't let the fact we have been run into the ground so appallingly by a series of dreadful Chairmen and boards in the last 20 years (including him) cloud your judgement. This club has massively underachieved in the 21st century. But don't for one minute let your Chairman convince you to lower your expectations of the club and what it is capable of. That would be letting him off the hook and allowing him to continue the under achievement. STOP doing his work for him and hammering home the message we arent a big club. We are one of the biggest in the country. What he said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, edinburghowl said: Any list that has Wimbledon and Charlton as a bigger club than Hearts is a pile of poo Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 hours ago, matthefish2002 said: Depends who you are comparing us to. Would say clubs I used to think we were bigger then as a kid like Leicester, Southampton and Wolves have left us far behind now. But would say we as big as anyone outside the Premier League. It doesn’t take long to get to that stage though just right management - if we got it right we would blow them all out of the water in terms of potential of this club 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeBilde'sTea Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Big club outside the PL, in top 6 or 8 of Champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Are we a bigger pull than Porto though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Grandad said: Seeing so many people repeating the Chairmans idiotic statement from last week - especially in relation to who we can attract as a manager. Yes we ARE a big club. Certainly in the top 20% of ALL clubs in the UK Don't let the fact we have been run into the ground so appallingly by a series of dreadful Chairmen and boards in the last 20 years (including him) cloud your judgement. This club has massively underachieved in the 21st century. But don't for one minute let your Chairman convince you to lower your expectations of the club and what it is capable of. That would be letting him off the hook and allowing him to continue the under achievement. STOP doing his work for him and hammering home the message we arent a big club. We are one of the biggest in the country. But we are a mediocre club, no bigger than Norwich, Ipswich, Sunderland, Bristol city, Coventry, Birmingham and of course, Dem Blunts. We have won only 1 trophy in nearly 90 years, our highest ave season's attendance is 33K. We are, however, a good stepping stone for managers and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: no bigger than Norwich, Ipswich, Sunderland, Bristol city, Coventry, Birmingham and of course, Dem Blunts. Absolute b******s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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