Popular Post SallyCinnamon Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 While ability wise we are certainly not what we were 2/3 seasons ago. I don’t agree with this argument. I look at other Championship clubs and I think this group of players is mid-table and with the right management could push for the top half. Since Christmas under Monk we’ve shown relegation form. A truly shocking run of games and performances, which as Garry would say, compounds the absolute misery of supporting us at the moment. I’m a firm believer of good management gets the best out of average players. We’ve seen it numerous times at this level. Wilder with them lot. Alex Neil always does a very solid job at Preston with very little investment. Stuart Gray at Wednesday had no money and signed some quality free transfers at the time. He had us organised and solid. I’d also point to sides like Luton and Millwall at this level, who have had significant less investment than us, they always manage to make themselves hard to beat and a challenge for most teams at this level. Us on the other hand under Monk have looked weak, vulnerable, no attacking threat and ALWAYS look like conceding and make howlers. Which for me shows poor management. Individual mistakes is often a result of players feeling nervous, not sure what their role in the side is and spending too much concentrating on what they think they need to do, rather than playing their natural game. What I’m seeing is a group of average footballers being asked to play a complicated formation they aren’t comfortable. Not playing to their strengths which highlights their limitations quite glaringly. I believe we do have quality. And even with players injured like Iorfa, Luongo and Brown, we should be able to set ourselves up and be resilient enough to put up a fight against sides like Luton and Rotherham. The players aren’t the problem at Sheffield Wednesday. It’s the manager. 17 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post S36 OWL Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 When the manager plays three at the back when he hasn't got three centre halves to play that system is unforgivable. Who in their right mind plays two full backs in a back three, or two centre halves and a full back? If you haven't got the players fit to play a system, you change system to play people in their correct positions. 22 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post @owlstalk Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 The players aren't good enough 9 2 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owlinmad Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 We haven't got any specialised wingbacks so why try to play a system that needs them ? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: The players aren't good enough Not good enough for what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, billyblack said: Not good enough for what? Can you not guess? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 It's a mid table squad, what we are missing is a decent manger. Played in their natural positions, supported by some tactical coherence and a dash of good old fashioned man management to build confidence and this squad will pick up points, despite it's obvious shortcomings, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, striker said: It's a mid table squad I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would believe that We've assembled a first division squad of crocks at best 1 1 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would believe that We've assembled a first division squad of crocks at best I know its all poo at the moment, but I genuinely don't believe that. There is enough there to be (lower admittedly) mid table (without the points deduction) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Can you not guess? No, depends on what the expectations are? What are they not good enough for? Promotion? Play offs? Mid table? Staying up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Some people forget that footballers are human too. Motivate, direct, train and develop them in the right way and they’ll produce the goods. If they aren’t given the right motivation, direction etc they’re unlikely to produce results.. We have a good squad on the whole, not amazing but decidedly better than the results suggest 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would believe that We've assembled a first division squad of crocks at best The icing on the cake was signing a player with a broken leg held together with pins. Edited October 29, 2020 by S36 OWL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would believe that We've assembled a first division squad of crocks at best You’re wrong 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, SallyCinnamon said: You’re wrong I'm not You've got blue and white striped specs on This squad isn't good enough 4 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 We have a group on average Championship players minus a forward that would worry the opposition and a goalkeeper we can relay on. Lack of those 2 will probably send us down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 none of our back-ups are good enough and for whatever reason we cant seem to keep a fit first 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'm not You've got blue and white striped specs on This squad isn't good enough Good enough for what? Not good enough for play offs or promotion, absolutely. But with the right management this side is comfortably mid table and is capable of at least putting in respectable performances. They aren’t playing for the manager. If you can’t draw that conclusion from yesterday’s showing - you don’t know anything about football. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Average squad at best. However at present.... we're not even looking average. That has to be a massive concern to everyone. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I ask myself, would this squad of players have the fight to win promotion from league one? No, I don't think they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 This group of players are good enough to stop up, 100% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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