0114 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, LittleG said: Not sure it's true that pkayers ate paid 2 months wages when they are released. If they're released 30 June then the salary they have been paid at the end of June would see them through July, as it does for anybody. It will mean that players agreeing to extend will now have to be paid for July, that's one of the reasons why divs 1 & 2 have agreed to end the season. You don’t have to believe me. I’m saying what I read. When players sign for a club at the end of that contract they supposedly receive 2 months wages. Hence why clubs were hoping players would agree to an extra month and hence why a lot of players aren’t willing to play because they aren’t earning anything they wouldn’t regardless, why risk an injury for no extra gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, LittleG said: Not sure it's true that pkayers ate paid 2 months wages when they are released. If they're released 30 June then the salary they have been paid at the end of June would see them through July, as it does for anybody. It will mean that players agreeing to extend will now have to be paid for July, that's one of the reasons why divs 1 & 2 have agreed to end the season. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.fourfourtwo.com/amp/features/player-what-its-be-out-contract-footballer-summer I can’t find the exact article I read. But this is from FourFourTwo from a couple years ago. It’s a player whose out of contract explaining what it’s like to be out of contract. “It was mid-June when I opened the Daily Mail on the beach and went straight to the sport section. I didn’t have a club, but had no plans to sign on the dole either. My contract ran out on July 1, but clubs have to pay you an extra month if you haven’t found a new employer.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, LittleG said: Difficult to justify giving him a 1 year extension; not the same player anymore. Rather give Lee a year's contract than joey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Drewswfc said: Rather give Lee a year's contract than joey I would but that's not the question. I would release them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, 0114 said: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.fourfourtwo.com/amp/features/player-what-its-be-out-contract-footballer-summer I can’t find the exact article I read. But this is from FourFourTwo from a couple years ago. It’s a player whose out of contract explaining what it’s like to be out of contract. “It was mid-June when I opened the Daily Mail on the beach and went straight to the sport section. I didn’t have a club, but had no plans to sign on the dole either. My contract ran out on July 1, but clubs have to pay you an extra month if you haven’t found a new employer.” Didn't know it was just one extra month. To be honest if a player has been paid extra to sit at home, I would have thought in the current climate, most players would agree to playing for a few matches in July. Helps their fitness and puts them in shop window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otley Owl Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 To me, it seems to indicate that he has agreed a longer extension in principle too, otherwise he is taking a huge risk - if he was to get another serious injury in the next few games, and is then out of contract, he's in trouble. Either we have given him some assurances of some sort, perhaps even an offer of a coaching role if it does go wrong, or he is an absolute legend for willing to risk it for the Wednesday cause. Fletcher is in the same situation, but it might be more complicated due to the higher wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 12 minutes ago, LittleG said: Didn't know it was just one extra month. To be honest if a player has been paid extra to sit at home, I would have thought in the current climate, most players would agree to playing for a few matches in July. Helps their fitness and puts them in shop window. They don’t get extra to sit at home, they will get the exact same regardless of if they play or not. I doubt many players think the way you put it. An injury in those 9 games could jeopardise your next move. So for no extra financial gain, why would they play? Hence why we’ve seen Ayala at Boro, Irvine at Hull and Taylor at Charlton saying they won’t play and I’m sure there’ll be more when team sheets come out Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kagoshimaowl Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hope it’s just for this season. If we are in League 1 I’d probably keep him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, 0114 said: They don’t get extra to sit at home, they will get the exact same regardless of if they play or not. I doubt many players think the way you put it. An injury in those 9 games could jeopardise your next move. So for no extra financial gain, why would they play? Hence why we’ve seen Ayala at Boro, Irvine at Hull and Taylor at Charlton saying they won’t play and I’m sure there’ll be more when team sheets come out Saturday. They've been paid an extra month so I would say that's being paid for doing nothing. Out of all the players out of contract at different clubs who have been asked to play a few games in July, it will be interesting to see how many have refused to play. You could be right, there may considerably more. Anyway we may just have to agree to disagree, have a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Thanks for your service but time to get fresh faces in now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 minute ago, LittleG said: They've been paid an extra month so I would say that's being paid for doing nothing. Out of all the players out of contract at different clubs who have been asked to play a few games in July, it will be interesting to see how many have refused to play. You could be right, there may considerably more. Anyway we may just have to agree to disagree, have a good day. It’s not extra. Extra means more than what they was supposed to receive. It’s exactly what the club has agreed for them to receive, club won’t lose more and player won’t gain more. No problem. Said at beginning you don’t have to believe me. But this is something that’s really happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, oldishowl said: We have played better this season when Lee has been in the team. He is a proper footballer That’s because when he plays we have 11 on the pitch no the 10 when cat gets picked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Drewswfc said: Rather give Lee a year's contract than joey I would rather give Christopher Lee a contract than Joey, even though he is not good with crosses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Glad he’s staying for July. Beyond that im not sure. He might not be on much now and if he’s happy to stay and be senior member of the team to help some younger players then that might work. But it’s unlikely he will get back to what he was in 2017 and as others have said we need to take our chance to change the first 11. I wonder if DC might struggle with the idea of letting some of these “Wednesday family” players walk away though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Why the hell would we want to extend the loan of Cruz, what an awful player. What happened to Fraser Preston? I thought he looked promising when he played. Very direct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 If this is his last deal, then it is a shame he wint get a proper send off. He deserves it more than most. Be nice to see him get a goal before the end of the season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Kieran Lee has agreed to finish the season with #SWFC On-loan players have agreed to stay too & extensions being finalised. Josh Windass to be given time to recover from injury before decision made on his loan. He is on low money and never signed at 25k a deal at his peak. Prob only only 6k a wk my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just waiting for someone to pipe up with ‘had his day but great servant to the club maybe keep him on in a coaching role’ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangonrose Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 4 hours ago, the monk said: Oh no "a niggle"! bet hes out for at least 3 games ! I'll raise you 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 No surprise to me that he is the first to sign up for the short extension. What a genuine pro and what a player he has been. I’d love to think that this lay-off has helped Kieran work on his strength. If he could get back to even 80% of what he was we are in clover to July. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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